Trade Dollar price guide increases.

fathom

Kudos to our host for the scarcity recognition.

Maybe collectors will appreciate the value in the series. Sorry if you are waiting for bargain prices long term.

DDR

A sea of green...

lkenefic

I bought mine at the end of last year. I'm glad I did!

P0CKETCHANGE

Just bought my type example today so that means this is probably the peak!

conrad99

Hard to find good ones! But very gratifying. Beautiful series.

Eldorado9

You can't have a Trade Dollar thread without a photo!

lermish

Not planning on selling but hopefully the chopped variety get a push also.

lkenefic

@lermish said:
Not planning on selling but hopefully the chopped variety get a push also.

I've been keeping an eye out for chopped Trade Dollars over the last month or so. The one in my Type set was cracked from a straight graded holder, but I wanted a chopped one for my Box of 20. Holdered ones that haven't been cleaned... in addition to getting chopped... are almost what I paid for my straight graded version around 8 months ago...

shish

A recent purchase.

DDR

75-P I/I --congratulations, Shish!

winesteven

The pricing update is only for Mint State Trade Dollars. Unfortunately for me, a Type Set collector, my one and only Trade dollar is a Proof. Hopefully those will get updated shortly.

Steve

TennesseeDave

@winesteven said:
The pricing update is only for Mint State Trade Dollars. Unfortunately for me, a Type Set collector, my one and only Trade dollar is a Proof. Hopefully those will get updated shortly.

Steve

The prices have been updated for all grades. This is at least twice there has been a major price increase in the last year. Glad I bought what I have starting about 10-12 years ago, but I wish I had bought more and sold less.

ricko

I only have one Trade dollar, chopmarked. I have thought about adding more, but since there are no shows or shops in my area, chances are slim - slim because I prefer to see them in hand. I know there are dealer sites and auctions... but I like to get up close and personal with big silver coins like this. Cheers, RickO

mbogoman

@shish said:
A recent purchase.

That's a really tough one. And it has all the diagnostic pickups of a genuine business strike I/I. Congrats!!!

TPRC

Here are a couple of common circulated pieces I paid too much for, thankfully.

fathom

This date is TOUGH in eye appealing state.

I am disappointed in the coin in hand. I will post a simple direct photo later.

conrad99

I'm sort of ambivalent about chops. I like them in theory but they have to be discreet in practice. So I was happy to land this one, even if at current prices.

Eldorado9

@conrad99 said:

I'm sort of ambivalent about chops. I like them in theory but they have to be discreet in practice. So I was happy to land this one, even if at current prices.

Ummmm, maybe it's the photo, but that 1875 just does not look right. Are you sure it's real?

Eldorado9

@MFeld Does that 1875 look good to you?

Cougar1978

Not surprised price increases - Trade Dollars very popular and in really high demand.

P0CKETCHANGE

@fathom said:
This date is TOUGH in eye appealing state.

I am disappointed in the coin in hand. I will post a simple direct photo later.

Perhaps you should start a poll thread about whether or not to return it.

conrad99

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

I'm sort of ambivalent about chops. I like them in theory but they have to be discreet in practice. So I was happy to land this one, even if at current prices.

Ummmm, maybe it's the photo, but that 1875 just does not look right. Are you sure it's real?

Hey! Mine's 24K gold, dude! Top that! Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?

Your remark gave me a scare because—I suddenly realized—I hadn't looked up the cert before buying. Not a little ironic since the main reason I bought a certified example is because of the rampant counterfeiting of the type.

Fortunately it checks out. And a benefit of the chop and TV images is that chops would be extremely difficult to replicate.

amwldcoin

@P0CKETCHANGE said:

@fathom said:
This date is TOUGH in eye appealing state.

I am disappointed in the coin in hand. I will post a simple direct photo later.

Perhaps you should start a poll thread about whether or not to return it.

But 1st let's see non glamour shots of it!

lkenefic

@Cougar1978 said:
Not surprised price increases - Trade Dollars very popular and in really high demand.

That means I'm out of the bidding pool for the time being...

fathom

OK here is the straight no adjustments:

Again here is the Trueview:

alefzero

The price guides were not keeping up with market for a couple years. I was a major buyer of them over the period and would often be paying over straight-grade greysheet or PCGS price guide for cleaned and other problem Trade dollars. But was able to accumulate some that might be impossible with now so many buyers, eyeballs on then.

Here is a nice rare example from the most common date.

TennesseeDave

@conrad99 said:

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

I'm sort of ambivalent about chops. I like them in theory but they have to be discreet in practice. So I was happy to land this one, even if at current prices.

Ummmm, maybe it's the photo, but that 1875 just does not look right. Are you sure it's real?

Hey! Mine's 24K gold, dude! Top that! Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?

Your remark gave me a scare because—I suddenly realized—I hadn't looked up the cert before buying. Not a little ironic since the main reason I bought a certified example is because of the rampant counterfeiting of the type.

Fortunately it checks out. And a benefit of the chop and TV images is that chops would be extremely difficult to replicate.

I would like to see better pics of this coin. Is it straight graded?

Eldorado9

@conrad99 said:

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

I'm sort of ambivalent about chops. I like them in theory but they have to be discreet in practice. So I was happy to land this one, even if at current prices.

Ummmm, maybe it's the photo, but that 1875 just does not look right. Are you sure it's real?

Hey! Mine's 24K gold, dude! Top that! Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?

Your remark gave me a scare because—I suddenly realized—I hadn't looked up the cert before buying. Not a little ironic since the main reason I bought a certified example is because of the rampant counterfeiting of the type.

Fortunately it checks out. And a benefit of the chop and TV images is that chops would be extremely difficult to replicate.

I'm completely confused sorry. What is that coin? You have a TV? It's a gold plated Trade Dollar in a PCGS holder?...with a chop mark? Clear me up...what exactly is it?

amwldcoin

@fathom said:
OK here is the straight no adjustments:

Again here is the Trueview:

If that was the difference between that 1867 Dollar I returned it would be sitting in my collection and I would be very happy!

Crypto

@alefzero said:
The price guides were not keeping up with market for a couple years. I was a major buyer of them over the period and would often be paying over straight-grade greysheet or PCGS price guide for cleaned and other problem Trade dollars. But was able to accumulate some that might be impossible with now so many buyers, eyeballs on then.

Here is a nice rare example from the most common date.

That’s a very rare coin in an even rarer grade. You must be quite the trade specialist.

LJenkins11

1873-CC AU58

1876-CC DDR AU58

ARCO

Trade Dollars are not going up in price...it is the dollar that is losing its purchasing power. The is the illusion that inflation presents itself.

amwldcoin

@ARCO said:
Trade Dollars are not going up in price...it is the dollar that is losing its purchasing power. The is the illusion that inflation presents itself.

I wish that was the case but coins don't traditionally follow inflation IMHO.

fathom

@amwldcoin said:

@fathom said:
OK here is the straight no adjustments:

Again here is the Trueview:

If that was the difference between that 1867 Dollar I returned it would be sitting in my collection and I would be very happy!

Appreciate your opinion.

kaz

Well, that's good news. I've put away over 40 of the things in various grades and conditions since I started collecting about 15 years ago. Nothing to compare with Shish's or Alefzero's posted above, though! and no proofs, yet.

mbogoman

A couple 76s. Top one is AU58, bottom AU55 CAC:

alefzero

@mbogoman said:
bottom AU55 CAC:

Does your wide cc one have denticle clashes under the wing?

The top one should have die pitting around stars 12 and (especially) 13, the lowest two on the right.

TennesseeDave

This is the last one I bought that was certified and the price guide was $475, now $800

Crypto

@alefzero said:

@mbogoman said:
bottom AU55 CAC:

Does your wide cc one have denticle clashes under the wing?

The top one should have die pitting around stars 12 and (especially) 13, the lowest two on the right.

Careful with that level of enthusiasm for trades one of the forum’s many times banned nut jobs Realone might try and reach out to you. We always wonder when he is going to pop up again

Goldbully

Just got this beauty earlier in the year from Heritage.

It really should have the PL designation.

MS63

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https://www.pcgs.com/cert/44061936

@Crypto I'd appreciate your thoughts on this 1876.

edited to add: I'll try and take some pics of the coin in hand and post later.

mbogoman

@Goldbully said:
Just got this beauty earlier in the year from Heritage.

It really should have the PL designation.

MS63

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https://www.pcgs.com/cert/44061936

@Crypto I'd appreciate your thoughts on this 1876.

edited to add: I'll try and take some pics of the coin in hand and post later.

Ooooooohhhh!!!

The obverse certainly looks PL - may be the reverse held it back??

Goldbully

@mbogoman said:

@Goldbully said:

Ooooooohhhh!!!

The obverse certainly looks PL - may be the reverse held it back??

I believe you're right. The obverse is definitely PL, but not the reverse.

TennesseeDave

@Goldbully said:
Just got this beauty earlier in the year from Heritage.

It really should have the PL designation.

MS63

Goldbully, are the rims as square as they appear in the pictures? It almost looks like a proof to my eyes, and I know these come very well struck.

ARCO

@amwldcoin said:

@ARCO said:
Trade Dollars are not going up in price...it is the dollar that is losing its purchasing power. The is the illusion that inflation presents itself.

I wish that was the case but coins don't traditionally follow inflation IMHO.

Well, if a dollar buys less gas, less food, less of everything, why wouldn't a dollar buy less coins? If the Federal Reserve pumps 6 trillion + in liquidity and no one has minted any more classic coins, what is the outcome?

Anyway, it was mostly tongue in cheek and a different way to think about rising prices.

amwldcoin

@ARCO said:

@amwldcoin said:

@ARCO said:
Trade Dollars are not going up in price...it is the dollar that is losing its purchasing power. The is the illusion that inflation presents itself.

I wish that was the case but coins don't traditionally follow inflation IMHO.

Well, if a dollar buys less gas, less food, less of everything, why wouldn't a dollar buy less coins? If the Federal Reserve pumps 6 trillion + in liquidity and no one has minted any more classic coins, what is the outcome?

Anyway, it was mostly tongue in cheek and a different way to think about rising prices.

I hope what you think is true...but most of us coin collectors are cheapskates! Think of how many coins cost the same or close now as they did when you were a kid. I could rattle of a bunch and I'm in my 60's.

conrad99

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

I'm sort of ambivalent about chops. I like them in theory but they have to be discreet in practice. So I was happy to land this one, even if at current prices.

Ummmm, maybe it's the photo, but that 1875 just does not look right. Are you sure it's real?

Hey! Mine's 24K gold, dude! Top that! Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?

Your remark gave me a scare because—I suddenly realized—I hadn't looked up the cert before buying. Not a little ironic since the main reason I bought a certified example is because of the rampant counterfeiting of the type.

Fortunately it checks out. And a benefit of the chop and TV images is that chops would be extremely difficult to replicate.

I'm completely confused sorry. What is that coin? You have a TV? It's a gold plated Trade Dollar in a PCGS holder?...with a chop mark? Clear me up...what exactly is it?

Sorry, I thought that by saying "24K" the joke was adequately over the top. Also, I followed it with "Seriously, though..."

No, it's not gold. My camerawork and/or lighting could be better though. I'll try to get better photos at some point.

Meanwhile you ignored my question: "Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?"

Eldorado9

@conrad99 said:

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

I'm sort of ambivalent about chops. I like them in theory but they have to be discreet in practice. So I was happy to land this one, even if at current prices.

Ummmm, maybe it's the photo, but that 1875 just does not look right. Are you sure it's real?

Hey! Mine's 24K gold, dude! Top that! Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?

Your remark gave me a scare because—I suddenly realized—I hadn't looked up the cert before buying. Not a little ironic since the main reason I bought a certified example is because of the rampant counterfeiting of the type.

Fortunately it checks out. And a benefit of the chop and TV images is that chops would be extremely difficult to replicate.

I'm completely confused sorry. What is that coin? You have a TV? It's a gold plated Trade Dollar in a PCGS holder?...with a chop mark? Clear me up...what exactly is it?

Sorry, I thought that by saying "24K" the joke was adequately over the top. Also, I followed it with "Seriously, though..."

No, it's not gold. My camerawork and/or lighting could be better though. I'll try to get better photos at some point.

Meanwhile you ignored my question: "Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?"

It's probably the photo, but the whole coin just looks off. The detail on the eagle does not look right, plus, what is the strange grid imprint on Liberty's lap? If you post the TV, that would help.

Goldbully

@TennesseeDave said:

@Goldbully said:

Goldbully, are the rims as square as they appear in the pictures? It almost looks like a proof to my eyes, and I know these come very well struck.

Yes they are. What does that mean?
Thanks for your input.

BTW, I didn’t mean to hijack this thread, so I will answer the OP.

Yes, I’ve noticed that the higher grade Trade $1’s are appreciating nicely.

amwldcoin

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

@Eldorado9 said:

@conrad99 said:

I'm sort of ambivalent about chops. I like them in theory but they have to be discreet in practice. So I was happy to land this one, even if at current prices.

Ummmm, maybe it's the photo, but that 1875 just does not look right. Are you sure it's real?

Hey! Mine's 24K gold, dude! Top that! Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?

Your remark gave me a scare because—I suddenly realized—I hadn't looked up the cert before buying. Not a little ironic since the main reason I bought a certified example is because of the rampant counterfeiting of the type.

Fortunately it checks out. And a benefit of the chop and TV images is that chops would be extremely difficult to replicate.

I'm completely confused sorry. What is that coin? You have a TV? It's a gold plated Trade Dollar in a PCGS holder?...with a chop mark? Clear me up...what exactly is it?

Sorry, I thought that by saying "24K" the joke was adequately over the top. Also, I followed it with "Seriously, though..."

No, it's not gold. My camerawork and/or lighting could be better though. I'll try to get better photos at some point.

Meanwhile you ignored my question: "Seriously though, what specifically do you find questionable about it?"

It's probably the photo, but the whole coin just looks off. The detail on the eagle does not look right, plus, what is the strange grid imprint on Liberty's lap? If you post the TV, that would help.

I would wager it's oversaturated with light and throwing the white balance way off in an automatic camera.

conrad99

@Eldorado9 said:

It's probably the photo, but the whole coin just looks off. The detail on the eagle does not look right, plus, what is the strange grid imprint on Liberty's lap? If you post the TV, that would help.

That "strange grid" is the chop mark I referred to!

And I may post the TV at some point but I know from experience that as soon as I do, everyone will pounce and say "oh yeah that's exactly what I saw!" This is why I was asking specifically what you were referring to. Anyway, onward and upward.

@amwldcoin said:

I would wager it's oversaturated with light and throwing the
white balance way off in an automatic camera.

Thanks, that's exactly it and useful information. I need a better camera—is there a good thread with recs?

conrad99

@Goldbully said:
Just got this beauty earlier in the year from Heritage.

That obverse is dreamy!
swoons