1857-S Seated Liberty Quarter
Eddi
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This is the last of my auction wins at the November 1988 Norweb Collection sale.
It was a bit brighter when I bought it. It has been sitting on a windowsill literally for decades and has toned further.
I would appreciate your opinions including grade.
Thank you!
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Xf45 -au50
AU50
AU50 by current standards. It was probably considered to be XF in 1988.
Thank you.
You will notice that there are some very small edge nicks here and there.
Would they be serious enough to detract from the grade in a significant way?
Looks like an XF45 to me.... including the edge nicks. Cheers, RickO
I'll go au50 fwiw
XF45+... The rim nicks are the only thing keeping it away from AU, IMO...
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45
If it has some original mint luster, I could see it as AU.
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I guess the large S is not significant ?
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I would like to visit your house just to see random raw coins lounging throughout your home! You have posted some quality coins, especially your early copper.
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I'm thinking 50 and the rim nicks are trivial IMHO!
45 and very pleasing!
Tom
I like it at XF45 but would not complain about AU50 either.
Most of these early S mint coins had huge mintmark punches.
My grade is 45, and a very nice 45 at that.
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I could see it in an XF45 holder. Nice example!
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BHNC #203
Yikes, do not ask an English dealer to grade that one! Good VF there. I see it as a 40 even though the reverse quite nice.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Thank you for your comments and your opinions on grade. They are very much appreciated.
This was another of the lower grade coins in the Norweb Auction, but this one did deserve a photo in the catalogue.
There were two 1857-S quarters in the sale. The other one was graded MS, and this one was graded EF if my memory serves.
Actually, yes, I do have my coins lying around various rooms in the house, a fact which my very understanding wife (much against her inner wishes) puts up with, but only on condition that they do not accumulate dust. She hates dust, so she insists on dusting my coins, even those lying around in open trays.......thankfully she has some very soft dusters which she insists will not damage my coins....
45.
No, all the "S"'s on 1857 quarters are large.
If you have any seated liberty quarters that look like this and grade them VF, I will buy all you got. This coin is at least XF45 and if it is not at least XF45 OP needs to re-submit it.
50 here.
I suggest you then check some British Auctions such as Baldwin's or Nona's that have been around a very long time, respected, and you will see exactly what I mean - they will reject it as an EF. I collect Victorian silver and as an example bought an 1839 currency half crown as EF in a Glendining auction that later graded MS64 at our hosts and a later GB penny bought as gEF that graded MS65RB. So yea this coin would grade in at gVF as they like to say. In any case as nice as this coin is, it is not IMHO above the 40. So no it is not an EF on that basis.
Well, just Love coins, period.
As I said "if you have any vf liberty seated coins that look like that I will gladly pay you vf prices for them". I have been collecting liberty seated coins for a long time and know what an xf looks like using US grading. British grading is different.
Please sell me all your vf (British graded) US liberty seated coins!! US coins go by US grading standards.
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Yeah, and there used to be some US bargains to be had in Europe until they realized how much they were leaving on the table and adjusted to US standards!
Uh, news: they haven't changed at the major and classic venues. I'm in the middle as coins such as the OP are very nice but would not grade them higher than as stated. Grading standards here are definitely more lax/
Well, just Love coins, period.
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Interesting discussion... Not taking sides.
We are looking at an image that really may not capture the lustre- if there is lustre, it seems that the strike is above average and an AU grade seems appropriate. However, the image... and that is all we have from our end... seems to reflect that there is a dull flatness which may limit the grade to somewhere between 40 or 45 on a good day.
Navigating grading from just seeing the coin in hand can be a challenge...In this instance, the images simply do not leave me with a level of confidence to grade this coin within the AU spectrum.
Having written all of this, it is still a nice coin for the date. I just bought an 1842 quarter- its a significantly better date as well. I have that one in hand and I am not certain/confident how it would grade as it exhibits decent lustre but there is weakness which extends beyond the strike. The wear seems problematic in terms of assigning the most appropriate grade.
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