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AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

What’s going on with this strange album? After 1986D things get strange. I can’t seem to find anything online about their item #9000-15. It’s also embossed silver. Very strange to me that it’s not in the Whitman item search but #9000 is.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it isn’t some sort of a photoshopped joke, l would say that this is a major printing error.

    There are error Red Books, and some of them had a fairly long run. It seems reasonable to see the same thing with a coin folder. My experience was that the openings were left blank for the years after the folder was printed. The reason, of course, was that no one knew exactly which coins would be issued in the future.

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    Big ole oops! Peace Roy

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  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    If it isn’t some sort of a photoshopped joke, l would say that this is a major printing error.

    There are error Red Books, and some of them had a fairly long run. It seems reasonable to see the same thing with a coin folder. My experience was that the openings were left blank for the years after the folder was printed. The reason, of course, was that no one knew exactly which coins would be issued in the future.

    Sounds good. Printing error and didn't want to throw them away so they created a -15???

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  • ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭✭

    Ask David Lange on the NGC site - he wrote the book on them.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said: There are error Red Books, and some of them had a fairly long run. It seems reasonable to see the same thing with a coin folder.

    I once saw a Whitman Franklin Half-Dollar Album that continued with dates after 1963-D to fill out the remaining holes. I believe it ran out to 1971. I also once owned a Whitman Lincoln Cent folder that had holes dated 1965-D, 1966-D, etc. looked though a coffee can of Lincolns twice but never found a 1965-D!! :p

    It's clear to me today that Whitman printed the albums ahead of time and always dated every hole. After a certain date they must have realized that mistake, probably from all the product they couldn't sell, and only printed to the current date. The way the Mint has changed things in the past 20+ years I think that was a good choice.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2022 5:58AM

    @Maywood said:
    @BillJones said: There are error Red Books, and some of them had a fairly long run. It seems reasonable to see the same thing with a coin folder.

    I once saw a Whitman Franklin Half-Dollar Album that continued with dates after 1963-D to fill out the remaining holes. I believe it ran out to 1971. I also once owned a Whitman Lincoln Cent folder that had holes dated 1965-D, 1966-D, etc. looked though a coffee can of Lincolns twice but never found a 1965-D!! :p

    It's clear to me today that Whitman printed the albums ahead of time and always dated every hole. After a certain date they must have realized that mistake, probably from all the product they couldn't sell, and only printed to the current date. The way the Mint has changed things in the past 20+ years I think that was a good choice.

    So you're saying they are collectable errors?!? 😜 😉

    Sounds like a new thread to me: "Post Your Coin Publication Errors" 😂 😉 😜

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  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first instinct is that it's a custom job, maybe even made by someone at the factory.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Maywood said:
    @BillJones said: There are error Red Books, and some of them had a fairly long run. It seems reasonable to see the same thing with a coin folder.

    I once saw a Whitman Franklin Half-Dollar Album that continued with dates after 1963-D to fill out the remaining holes. I believe it ran out to 1971. I also once owned a Whitman Lincoln Cent folder that had holes dated 1965-D, 1966-D, etc. looked though a coffee can of Lincolns twice but never found a 1965-D!! :p

    It's clear to me today that Whitman printed the albums ahead of time and always dated every hole. After a certain date they must have realized that mistake, probably from all the product they couldn't sell, and only printed to the current date. The way the Mint has changed things in the past 20+ years I think that was a good choice.

    So you're saying they are collectable errors?!? 😜 😉

    Sounds like a new thread to me: "Post Your Coin Publication Errors" 😂 😉 😜

    Yes, the error Red Books are collectible. They are listed in some of the guides. I once had one that had doubled up pages, and from what I have read, it was not unique.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This folder in the OP is really weird. It goes to a current date and then goes back to the Flying Eagle and Civil War era Indian Cents.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strangest page of a Whitman I've seen.

  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would assume someone made this at home, either with a stencil or by overlaying the original sheet with a home-made printed one. I cannot see any way that would have come from the factory that way, the printing plates used to make those are too large and unwieldy for someone at the factory to make a one-off.

    Sean Reynolds

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  • AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here’s a second I found on feebay.

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