Fake and it looks like it came from the same source as the first one---China.
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@Elcontador said:
To je govno. They are cast counterfeits, and I don't even need to see either coin in person.
More likely they are struck from dies which are cast.
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I wouldn’t put it that way. Looking at the range of quality of various counterfeits, this coin is low quality/poorly made. It may be that a novice doesn’t have the experience to recognize that, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s an obvious, bad fake.
Your wording is similar to someone asking if a VF coin is uncirculated. One could reply it’s obviously circulated (unlike, say, a 58), but you could also say that it’s not obviously circulated to a total novice.
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Probably bitter chocolate in the center. Looks fake to me.
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That's a poorly made counterfeit.
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Photos aren't the greatest but I would say fake.
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This is in the same auction
Fake and it looks like it came from the same source as the first one---China.
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Off-center bust obverse only used for 1795, so the 1797 is an obvious fake. The "vampire bite marks" on the 1795 give it away as a fake as well.
Curious what auction these are in?
Don’t we wish all fakes were that bad.
Here's the Coinfacts page for the 1795... the "vampire bites" are a known diagnostic for fakes.
The 1797... had me counting stars... ;-)
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Fakes but will probably bring moon money at a local auction.
To je govno. They are cast counterfeits, and I don't even need to see either coin in person.
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They have the look of Chinese fakes.
You should inform them that they have counterfeits in their auction. Their reaction, or lack thereof, will tell you what sort of operation they are.
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To you and many here, yes.
To the novice, no.
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More likely they are struck from dies which are cast.
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I wouldn’t put it that way. Looking at the range of quality of various counterfeits, this coin is low quality/poorly made. It may be that a novice doesn’t have the experience to recognize that, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s an obvious, bad fake.
Your wording is similar to someone asking if a VF coin is uncirculated. One could reply it’s obviously circulated (unlike, say, a 58), but you could also say that it’s not obviously circulated to a total novice.
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Poorly made fakes... Likely out of China.... Cheers, RickO