Not that I'm an expert but I would have thought that the grade was spot on. It's a very nice coin excellent strike full of good details with very few contact marks and rich colour.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
I picked this beauty up last year. Early dated (pre 1500 A.D.) copper from Europe
is relatively rare compared to the gold and silver pieces. @messydesk took the
pictures and did an excellent job!!!
George I 1719 first issue halfpenny with grained edge, ex Terner where slabbed AU58, but realistically not much better than VF. The middle one of 3(?) known.
There is a note in the Norweb pt.2 catalogue lot 520 stating the other known example of this type has the provenance ex-Caldecott, Rogers, Brand-Lichtenfels and SNC 3/1965 (CC1324). However, the appearance of a rather worn example in one of Baldwin's 'basement' sales indicated that piece was the Rogers example as it was accompanied by a note (in Rogers handwriting) stating a gift from C W Peck 1951. Peck noted only two examples - his own (the best known) and the Rogers coin (the worst one), leaving this example as a third, unknown to Peck. It's condition suggests that this is the Caldecott piece, which is also Brand-Lichtenfels 2737 (Kreisberg-Schulman, NY, 18/3/1964) and SNC 3/1965. Brand's highly acquisitive nature in the 10-15 prior to his death in 1926 ensured a good number of inadequately documented coins disappeared off the radar for a lengthy period. Rare whatever, as I'm unaware of any more.
George II 1734/3 halfpenny. Seriously difficult to find, I have only found 5 before or since I bought this nearly 20 years ago and this is the best by a full grade or slightly more.
Anne copper pattern halfpenny, Peck 730. Another quality piece that surfaced in Baldwin's 'basement' sales from 15 years ago or so. Still trying to establish a provenance, but it could have lain there for a century for all we know.
Finally, an 1868 cupro-nickel proof third farthing, previously in an NGC 65 slab. It's mostly copper, so passes the audition.
Yes PCGS don't grade Edward VII and George V Farthings till 1918 that don't have the darken finish done by the mint. The ones that have missed treatment are usually returned un-slabbed. That's my experience so far.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Wow, this is phenomenal. I only recently started collecting Britain pre-decimal, so just on those alone, this thread does not disappoint. I also see a huge amount of other amazing pieces, some I'm not even sure what they are, but impressed.
1797 penny with 10 leaves to the wreath and 3 incuse dots on the rock on the reverse, Peck 1132. Previously NGC MS65.
1797 penny with 11 leaves to the wreath and 3 raised dots on the rocks (Peck 1133A). This reverse is rare. The only better example I am aware of is the current Spink plate coin, currently in a private collection and going nowhere in a hurry. ex Adams collection.
1857 Decimal pattern Two Cents (Peck 1975). ex Clarke-Thornhill collection.
Two trial impressions of a 1689 farthing (P564) on a Charles II halfpenny. This is the piece noted in footnote 2 on p.155 of Peck. This farthing is only known from 3 examples as a true coin.
1793 Isaac Newton farthing token by Kempson
1713 pattern farthing Peck 732, flipped in the dies, e.g. the hair tassles are also seen left of the shield
1694 Halfpenny with GV over B in the obverse legend. The engraver obviously started to enter the reverse legend in error
1790 double reverse pattern halfpenny in bronzed copper. A Taylor restrike as the nude Britannia die was acquired by him in the un-hardened state. Previously PCGS 64 and ex Rgers, Norweb and Selig collections. Possibly the only example available to collectors (cue a second example turning up!)
Here are two lustre BOMBS that sadly don't photograph as nicely as they are in hand:
1 - Vanuatu, but struck on emergency basis so country is "New Hebrides", which was a South Pacific colonial consortium jointly controlled by England and France - fairly scarce:
2 - 1970 Halfpenny, but specimen "TRIAL" and struck in copper-nickel, "Rarissimo", LOL
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
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Poor pic (not in focus) purchased on eBay. In hand it looks nicer, still seemed to be graded a bit higher than it is.
Not that I'm an expert but I would have thought that the grade was spot on. It's a very nice coin excellent strike full of good details with very few contact marks and rich colour.
Just posted this NEWP in my own thread, but here it is again:
MS65RB. Pop 16, 2 Finer.
Both tops in their grades RB and RD
Neat "atheist" cent.
Even though I commented on this coin before, my original and current
remarks stand. It's embarrassing get old.
I picked this beauty up last year. Early dated (pre 1500 A.D.) copper from Europe
is relatively rare compared to the gold and silver pieces. @messydesk took the
pictures and did an excellent job!!!
Oliver Cromwell and Thomas Aniello, struck c1700 by F. St. Urbain. Commoners rule England and Naples.
Conder Token Gallery https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMCiunai6NjOxoo3zREkCsAnNm4vONzieO3u7tHyhm8peZmRD_A0MXmnWT2dzJ-nw?key=Rlo2YklUSWtEY1NWc3BfVm90ZEUwU25jLUZueG9n
1853 copper proof halfpenny, ex-Norweb
1675 over 3 over 2 halfpenny, previously slabbed 1673 NGC 65
1795 bronzed copper pattern halfpenny, Peck 1053. ex-Boulton
Goetz patterns
Another Top Pop
Darkened surface at the mint?
Got his one today.
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Gene that is one nice red cent, congratulations.
George I 1719 first issue halfpenny with grained edge, ex Terner where slabbed AU58, but realistically not much better than VF. The middle one of 3(?) known.
There is a note in the Norweb pt.2 catalogue lot 520 stating the other known example of this type has the provenance ex-Caldecott, Rogers, Brand-Lichtenfels and SNC 3/1965 (CC1324). However, the appearance of a rather worn example in one of Baldwin's 'basement' sales indicated that piece was the Rogers example as it was accompanied by a note (in Rogers handwriting) stating a gift from C W Peck 1951. Peck noted only two examples - his own (the best known) and the Rogers coin (the worst one), leaving this example as a third, unknown to Peck. It's condition suggests that this is the Caldecott piece, which is also Brand-Lichtenfels 2737 (Kreisberg-Schulman, NY, 18/3/1964) and SNC 3/1965. Brand's highly acquisitive nature in the 10-15 prior to his death in 1926 ensured a good number of inadequately documented coins disappeared off the radar for a lengthy period. Rare whatever, as I'm unaware of any more.
George II 1734/3 halfpenny. Seriously difficult to find, I have only found 5 before or since I bought this nearly 20 years ago and this is the best by a full grade or slightly more.
Anne copper pattern halfpenny, Peck 730. Another quality piece that surfaced in Baldwin's 'basement' sales from 15 years ago or so. Still trying to establish a provenance, but it could have lain there for a century for all we know.
Finally, an 1868 cupro-nickel proof third farthing, previously in an NGC 65 slab. It's mostly copper, so passes the audition.
Bright Finish Equal Top Pop
Yes PCGS don't grade Edward VII and George V Farthings till 1918 that don't have the darken finish done by the mint. The ones that have missed treatment are usually returned un-slabbed. That's my experience so far.
Some half pennies:
Wow, this is phenomenal. I only recently started collecting Britain pre-decimal, so just on those alone, this thread does not disappoint. I also see a huge amount of other amazing pieces, some I'm not even sure what they are, but impressed.
Half Farthing Top of Pop in MS64 RB
1797 penny with 10 leaves to the wreath and 3 incuse dots on the rock on the reverse, Peck 1132. Previously NGC MS65.
1797 penny with 11 leaves to the wreath and 3 raised dots on the rocks (Peck 1133A). This reverse is rare. The only better example I am aware of is the current Spink plate coin, currently in a private collection and going nowhere in a hurry. ex Adams collection.
1857 Decimal pattern Two Cents (Peck 1975). ex Clarke-Thornhill collection.
Current 1987 2 pence struck on a defective blank
A few more odds and sods in no particular order
1857 pattern decimal halfpenny/5 Centimes which uses the head seen on contemporary Australian sovereigns
1690 Gunmoney Crown. Quite pleased with this one.
1946 mint toned penny, applied to mask the reduced tin content of the alloy
Gaius Quadrans, Rome mint
1794 Lancaster halfpenny token
May 1690 Gunmoney halfcrown
I just purchased this coin. I like nice looking coins.
I just bought this one. It is not a top pop. It has about 65 graded higher but I like the look. In ten years I can sell it for a nice profit.
Buckinghamshire 28 halfpenny token, NGC MS5BN.
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New one from the weekend...
Two trial impressions of a 1689 farthing (P564) on a Charles II halfpenny. This is the piece noted in footnote 2 on p.155 of Peck. This farthing is only known from 3 examples as a true coin.
1793 Isaac Newton farthing token by Kempson
1713 pattern farthing Peck 732, flipped in the dies, e.g. the hair tassles are also seen left of the shield
1694 Halfpenny with GV over B in the obverse legend. The engraver obviously started to enter the reverse legend in error
1790 double reverse pattern halfpenny in bronzed copper. A Taylor restrike as the nude Britannia die was acquired by him in the un-hardened state. Previously PCGS 64 and ex Rgers, Norweb and Selig collections. Possibly the only example available to collectors (cue a second example turning up!)
Here’s a brass one, not the same that I posted at the THEME game.
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Recently came back from PCGS.
A couple of tokens.
An Eccleston 1794 halfpenny
And a 1797 Wroxham marl pit threepence
Here are two lustre BOMBS that sadly don't photograph as nicely as they are in hand:
1 - Vanuatu, but struck on emergency basis so country is "New Hebrides", which was a South Pacific colonial consortium jointly controlled by England and France - fairly scarce:
2 - 1970 Halfpenny, but specimen "TRIAL" and struck in copper-nickel, "Rarissimo", LOL
Well, just Love coins, period.
Here's a lovely Swiss specimen 5 Rappen piece recently acquired:
1999 France 50C Euro Struck on 2 Cent Planchet. 1999 was the first year Euro issued into circulation.
1953 Coronation proof penny, has great colors in motion
1799 farthing
1788 halfpenny pattern proof
Ionia under Britain medal
@SilverAge3, the first one is very nice.
PCGS graded UNC Details - Cleaned. it is still a nice looking copper.