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Is this Peace dollar terminal?

braddickbraddick Posts: 24,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'd love your opinion on this Peace dollar.
I am not 100% certain about how it acquired its toning or if it is terminal.
Any information on the grading company would be helpful too.)

Thanks!




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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I probably can tell you regarding the toning. I had an 1880 O Morgan that had been left in a small paper coin envelope for 50 odd years(1958-2005) and it looked nearly the same as your Peace Dollar. I tried acetone, olive oil soaks and it actually became worse.
    Jim


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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I recall seeing CMG holders years ago! From what I can see in the images... that toning looks terminal to me. :neutral:

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dont know if it is terminal, but it is ugly toning. Maybe a dip would make it a nice coin. Never heard of Coin mart.

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  • shishshish Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I would consider the obverse toning terminal. Dipping this coin would be No Bueno.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I consider that tarnish close to terminal.... there could be further stages of black if the contaminant remains available. Cheers, RickO

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks terminally fugly - I would try to lighten it up with some MS-70 if I had that coin.

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  • RondorRondor Posts: 116 ✭✭✭

    terminal almost assuredly.

    UAF, definitely

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CMG is British Columbia Coin Mart, a large coin dealer in Vancouver BC, they created this holder for themselves….

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,570 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, but in that grade it doesn't matter.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, and then some. Dipping this will leave you with an unattractive lump of worn silver.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mother Nature is taking her back as we speak.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It almost appears fire damaged.

    :#

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  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well …. At least you can tamper with her ALL DAY LONG 😂

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pocket piece? Dan Carr overstrike? Polish it and put in a belt buckle?

    So many options. :p

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Pocket piece? Dan Carr overstrike? Polish it and put in a belt buckle?

    So many options. :p

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pretty sure this is the american version of coin superstition. other countries nail coins to stuff, put them in food etc

    we here in america with our big blocks choose to put a silver dollar down inside the oil refill cap with nary a though of how to get it back out. oh, you thought that was your lifters rattlin' round in thar?!?

    i'd ask you to do the coke challenge by smelling it for the oil type but looks like they were wise and sealed it off. ;)

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,304 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 16, 2022 3:01AM

    It was probably dipped and not properly rinsed when it was plated in that “third world slab.” The dipping was done to make it “nice and bright” for an inexperienced “fish” who would be attracted to it. Over time the chemicals attacked the coin to get what you see today.

    Ruined? For sure.

    Dead? It still has a melt or scrap value.

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  • tcollectstcollects Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭✭✭

    dip it and show us what happens

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :/

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks dipped or contaminated with a chemical and not rinsed. IMO. Good luck. Peace Roy

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ✭

    If you could submerge it in acetone and shine a strong light on it you might be able to see if there's good luster under the toning, i discovered that by accident soaking coins in acetone in my garage with the door open, the acetone allowed the sunlight to penetrate the toning and reflect off the metal underneath.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had darkly toned Peace dollars like that actually dip out ok. But the coin should remain in its final resting place. RIP.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Atcarroll said:
    If you could submerge it in acetone and shine a strong light on it you might be able to see if there's good luster under the toning, i discovered that by accident soaking coins in acetone in my garage with the door open, the acetone allowed the sunlight to penetrate the toning and reflect off the metal underneath.

    As a VF I doubt there is any luster regardless.

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Album filler

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @privatecoin said:
    Album filler

    I almost read that as album fluffer.
    :o

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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terminal it is by my humble estimation.

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  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just bought this ugly coin, and the black part is fully lustrous.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,443 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its moments like this when I wish I had a picture to post of Elsa Lanchester from the Bride of Frankenstein

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