I can’t see anything better than AU58. There appear to be multiple areas on the obverse portrait displaying friction/wear, as well as friction in the fields - particularly in front of Liberty’s face.
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I think it's a 58, but the only other holder I could imagine it in is a 61. Neither as a plus, as I don't think the luster is vibrant enough, but she appears to be a nice looking example for the grade.
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I would’ve guessed a 58. The reason it looks like an AU coin is because of the lighting. Every little hairline becomes magnified. Practice with your camera and lighting until you find the optimal settings. That’s what I’m in the process of doing. Lots and lots of pics. It can be frustrating, but I’m obsessed until I get it right. Or maybe I just need a new camera, LOL.
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I can! I can see the mint State luster from 20 paces.
Luster isn't all that counts for the grade.
I kinda new this was coming. So, aside from the amount of hits that drags it down to a 61 and with the presence of luster there can only be one other factor that determines the difference between AU and MS right?
Friction/rub/wear? That's 3 but essentially 1.
Oh how grading has changed. For me, AU58 means you need to look closely to see that it isn’t MS. AU55 is the highest possible grade for coins with obvious wear.
It sure isn’t how it works anymore. The old AU58 has now expanded into the 58-62 range, grades that it now shares somewhat strangely with legitimately MS coins.
I don't believe the coin warrants any AU designation, although I could try harder in capturing its finer points in my photography via cellphone. The coin grade is 61
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61 makes sense to me. I don't think the area of the neck near the tip would show worn, rather than bag-marked luster. Whether that's better than 58 is debatable.
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I can’t see anything better than AU58. There appear to be multiple areas on the obverse portrait displaying friction/wear, as well as friction in the fields - particularly in front of Liberty’s face.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think it's slightly circulated too – but just barely. So I'm going to go with the wild and crazy guess of 58+.
I love it, by the way.
I'll go with 58.
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I’m guessing a slider that slid into a 62 holder.
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First impression was 55 and after reading replies so far... I'm feeling more like 58.
58 me thinks! And $3k to boot!
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I like it as an AU55.
I'm in the 58 camp. That coin must be real nice in person.
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I see a 58 there.... Huge pictures, so it is possible I am being overly critical.... Cheers, RickO
Somewhere between FR02 and MS70. I think 60.
I think it's a 58, but the only other holder I could imagine it in is a 61. Neither as a plus, as I don't think the luster is vibrant enough, but she appears to be a nice looking example for the grade.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
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Okay, what is the backstory??
bob
None! No back story just a little levity perhaps nuance over my new coin . Nothing really.
You folks are sharp, I like the comments and reasoning, i especially like the "Ricko Huge Pictures comment"
Nobody's way off at all, very keen eyes.
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Nice coin
@Soldi.... Thanks for the slab picture.... Yep, a 61looks fair. Cheers, RickO
Sorry, I just don’t see it as a 61
Tom
I can! I can see the mint State luster from 20 paces.
I would’ve guessed a 58. The reason it looks like an AU coin is because of the lighting. Every little hairline becomes magnified. Practice with your camera and lighting until you find the optimal settings. That’s what I’m in the process of doing. Lots and lots of pics. It can be frustrating, but I’m obsessed until I get it right. Or maybe I just need a new camera, LOL.
I hope it looks different in hand
Luster isn't all that counts for the grade.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I kinda new this was coming. So, aside from the amount of hits that drags it down to a 61 and with the presence of luster there can only be one other factor that determines the difference between AU and MS right?
Friction/rub/wear? That's 3 but essentially 1.
Oh how grading has changed. For me, AU58 means you need to look closely to see that it isn’t MS. AU55 is the highest possible grade for coins with obvious wear.
It sure isn’t how it works anymore. The old AU58 has now expanded into the 58-62 range, grades that it now shares somewhat strangely with legitimately MS coins.
That aside, this is a really cool coin.
Yeah, I'm still seeing AU surfaces.
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I don't believe the coin warrants any AU designation, although I could try harder in capturing its finer points in my photography via cellphone. The coin grade is 61
Wat can I say 🤷
Nice coin and you do love it so it’s all that matters ❤️
61 makes sense to me. I don't think the area of the neck near the tip would show worn, rather than bag-marked luster. Whether that's better than 58 is debatable.
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no worries this is more an exercise "In my exciting "lousy photography" guess the grades" YAY!
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I buy the grade but I can't afford the coin
Eye appeal figures greatly on a coin like this. Nice coin.
LOL! It doesn't really matter on a 94 dollar!