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A coin from a shattered die…..let’s see what you got

drddmdrddm Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

Let’s see your cracked up coins.
The more shattered, the better! 😬


Dave

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know if this is a die crack but that's my best guess. Getting back from our hosts any week now so I will find out for sure.

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a super cool error, but I wouldn’t consider it a shattered die. There is a large die break and lots of die damage.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Something is happening here. Not quite sure what!

    I had a couple threads on similar looking coins. I summed up the responses in the below thread. The top part (first 5 pictures) is a retained cud. After that is the split die... that resembles your coin.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1075464/summary-early-bust-die-issues-retained-cud-split-die-broken-die#latest

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wwmUMvhy-lY - Pink Me And Bobby McGee
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Something is happening here. Not quite sure what!

    I have that same die variety in my Type set... I'll see if I can dig out the images...

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lilolme said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Something is happening here. Not quite sure what!

    I had a couple threads on similar looking coins. I summed up the responses in the below thread. The top part (first 5 pictures) is a retained cud. After that is the split die... that resembles your coin.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1075464/summary-early-bust-die-issues-retained-cud-split-die-broken-die#latest

    Thanks very much for that @lilolme !!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkenefic said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Something is happening here. Not quite sure what!

    I have that same die variety in my Type set... I'll see if I can dig out the images...

    Look forward to seeing it @lkenefic !!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2022 9:58AM

    @lkenefic said:

    Oh yes, that sure is... Very similar! From the same die you think?? I like yours better!! 👍🏻 👍🏻 Thanks for posting that.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @drddm said:

    @Herb_T said:

    Excellent example, Herb!
    It’s a wonder this die held together that long to continue making coins with the amount of die cracks like this.

    Here’s another coin from the same set of dies, made even later!!!


    Dave

    Talk about a latter example….those are great!

  • fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭✭✭


    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
  • rkprkp Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    @EastonCollection said:
    1811/9 dime- shattered die on the reverse - huge die cracks with them crossing the Eagle's head

    Hi EastonCollection, absolutely beautiful 1811 dime. I recently acquired one and wanted to know about the various die stages for this issue. Would you say yours is a late die state? thanks!

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rkp said:

    @EastonCollection said:
    1811/9 dime- shattered die on the reverse - huge die cracks with them crossing the Eagle's head

    Hi EastonCollection, absolutely beautiful 1811 dime. I recently acquired one and wanted to know about the various die stages for this issue. Would you say yours is a late die state? thanks!

    The 1811/9 dime is one of my favorite date in the Capped Bust dime series because its so interesting and fascinating to study. Mine seems to be a later die state because of the depth of the die cracks and the weakness of the 10C on the reverse. I can only imagine the working conditions in the US mint at that time. Trying to mint coins with a screw press and breaking dies by applying different pressure. Holding the die together must have been a time consuming task back then.

    Easton Collection
  • JesseKraftJesseKraft Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @drddm, Same variety as yours, struck slightly earlier but the crack still goes all the way from rim to rim.
    1812 Capped Bust half dollar, Overton.105a
    American Numismatic Society, 2013.3.1

    Jesse C. Kraft, Ph.D.
    Resolute Americana Curator of American Numismatics
    American Numismatic Society
    New York City

    Member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA), British Numismatic Society (BNS), New York Numismatic Club (NYNC), Early American Copper (EAC), the Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4), U.S. Mexican Numismatic Association (USMNA), Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC), Token and Medal Society (TAMS), and life member of the Atlantic County Numismatic Society (ACNS).
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great pieces thus far. If I have time I'll look for a couple


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/nb/zdxeyqksqxy5.jpg ""

    Sold this one a while ago but always liked the obverse.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • Here’s my addition, it looks better in hand.
    I thought it would have been bent, but it looks like a collapsed die.

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 15, 2022 12:19PM

    1838 Capped Bust Half Dollar PCGS AU55 CAC

  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Here's a fun shattered 1863 IHC. 1863 IHCs in particular are known for being a treasure trove of cracked and shattered dies. The variety is http://indiancentvarieties.com.fqdns.net/1863_variety027.html and there is an even later die state than this, amazingly enough.

    "You can't get just one gun." "You can't get just one tattoo." "You can't get just one 1796 Draped Bust Large Cent."

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