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1917 lincoln cent - Next submission *Update True view*

ColdSummer310ColdSummer310 Posts: 28
edited October 1, 2022 1:28PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hello, first I would I want to thank you for clicking on the thread. I apologize before hand on "if there is a thread for this" I need your guys help.

photos below next post!!
My question is do you believe this item is 1917 (91) Questionable Color Unc details? I've compared it to many like it (QC) & doesn't see correct. I have toned coins/ dipped coins & its upsetting when you send in your coin and they can't decide if it "legit".
Finally, if you do agree with me about questionable color 91 being in correct how should I procced. Just transfer my business to NGC or get regraded.

Thank you

Socal 310

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Answer ✓

    Here is a link to the cert, so in another month when the TruView shows up we can see what they saw.


  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Answer ✓

    First, welcome. I'm not a copper specialist, but I'll give you my take on it.

    Color on copper is a little hard to pick up in photos. Obviously you have the coin in-hand and can see things we can't. If you're open-minded about it, you must admit that the most likely explanation is that three experienced, professional graders looked at the coin and made the correct call. Some coins are "on the fence" and you might have better luck on another day, but you should strongly consider the possibility that the coin really has been messed with or has a look that the graders just don't like. If so, you're likely to get the same opinion from NGC or any other quality grading service.

    Apart from the color issue, this issue isn't really valuable enough to justify slabbing until you get in the range of MS64RD. Again, it's difficult to grade from photos, but it looks like there is enough stuff going on in the fields that it wouldn't be likely to grade higher. If you consider all of your options, you might be better off just buying one you like already in a PCGS MS64RD holder. Grading fees can get expensive, especially if you consider two or three (possibly ultimately unsuccessful) tries, postage, insurance, submission fees, and such.

    I'm very happy to be wrong, but those of us who have paid plenty in grading fees would only try this coin again if you had a concrete, substantiated, informed reason to try it again.

  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭✭
    Answer ✓

    The color doesn’t really say”100 year old copper coin” to me.How long have you owned it ? Welcome to the forum!

  • Stingray63Stingray63 Posts: 299 ✭✭✭
    Answer ✓

    I agree with @AUandAG. I wouldn't leave. If one submits enough coins they will get both ends of stick from time to time regardless of the TPG used.

    Pocket Change Inspector

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColdSummer310 said:

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    already posted

    I apologize brother. Won't happen again. Still learning.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s a double post and you sure as hell don’t need to apologize to anyone here with the exception of the moderator. You are more than free to do a double post if you want to or if it’s a mistake.
    I personally find your 17 just beautiful. I would just leave it as it is.
    Welcome to the forum brother.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • ColdSummer310ColdSummer310 Posts: 28

    Let this thread die... Thanks everyone

    Socal 310

  • ColdSummer310ColdSummer310 Posts: 28
    edited October 1, 2022 2:11PM Answer ✓

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @ColdSummer310 said:

    Well I'm beginning to thing I'm visually impaired. Don't discrimate lol seriously...
    Last week I sent 1917 with variety What I thought is a DDO via diagnostics. I mean, they look totally different from the other 1917 ms 64 RB I have. You decide.

    the coin above is in no way a ddo, fs-101 or otherwise unless it has microscopic doubling as a discovery not visible from the provided images which is probably a billion to 1.

    keep trying but don't underestimate blowing up professional UNC images of varieties to confirm and see how obvious most of them are. also, if you have a PC/tablet and can save images to a folder, it will go MILES towards variety education. i've done it thousands of times, because it works. ;)

    The real question is who you walk a thousand miles for the 1917 images?

    I'm using the smallest screen to view these. Like you suggested.

    First things first. sure disappointed I though I had it. Diagnostics are there. Still a lovely 1917. When you have both these slabs I front of you it's day and night lol. Maybe one day I will find a DDO 1917! Or possible reconsideration? Educate me!

    Alright This is the first true view.
    My 1917 (1st sub)

    The "1 in a billion" 1917 lol
    Ive heard & It's obvious that pcgs enhances/ edits true views. Who knows. What do I do? Keep or call them ask about it?

    A regular 1917 like mine :#

    Regular 1917, I would do like I've done before make a few bucks.

    I think Worst part is charged me for variety & disappointment (mainly)... Just recieved the item today. 10/1/2022. should have sent 3 days ago. I explained this to pcgs via email, due to the fact I wanted to bring it to long beach, cause I want to learn more about coin grading and variteys look like.

    I guess it's acceptance I've seen so many threads about bad experience with PCGS. I wouldn't call this a bad experience just one of those things.

    Thanks for reading.
    Have a great weekend!

    Socal 310


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