But not before it went to "sold." Does eBay notify the buyer and block or reverse the sale when this happens? Look for it to show up again.
Unless something has changed, the buyer will be notified by eBay. Additionally, the seller is reported as having said - hopefully truthfully - that he cancelled the sale after it closed.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
But not before it went to "sold." Does eBay notify the buyer and block or reverse the sale when this happens? Look for it to show up again.
long ago, i had ebay do this type of thing. i don't recall what types of items they were but when i received the notification, i was pretty shocked. i did a LOT less research then but at the same time don't really recall being scammed which makes their catching it the few times i may have been even more impressive. of course they could have been just doing risk assessment on the safe side, who knows?
But not before it went to "sold." Does eBay notify the buyer and block or reverse the sale when this happens? Look for it to show up again.
The seller messaged and said they cancelled the sale as they were made aware it was counterfeit less than 24 hours prior to the auction ending which you apparently can’t cancel.
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it has been a while since i canceled an auction with bids but at that time, it did prompt the option to cancel bids before ending and that was with 12 hours or less left. i have to look up the new language, if any, for changes to this option.
With fewer than 12 hours left, you cannot end an auction that has 1 or more bids with reserve price met or no reserve price set. You can only sell to the high bidder.
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it has been a while since i canceled an auction with bids but at that time, it did prompt the option to cancel bids before ending and that was with 12 hours or less left. i have to look up the new language, if any, for this option.
See eBay link below - it appears that seller was correct about the 12 hours cutoff.
But not before it went to "sold." Does eBay notify the buyer and block or reverse the sale when this happens? Look for it to show up again.
The seller messaged and said they cancelled the sale as they were made aware it was counterfeit less than 24 hours prior to the auction ending which you apparently can’t cancel.
I also messaged the seller, they responded that you cannot end an auction within 24 hours before it ends. They said they let it finish and immediately cancelled the sale. I've never sold on eBay so I'm not sure if the first statement is true.
@FlyingAl said:
I also messaged the seller, they responded that you cannot end an auction within 24 hours before it ends. They said they let it finish and immediately cancelled the sale. I've never sold on eBay so I'm not sure if the first statement is true.
@MFeld, It is interesting that the seller stated 24 hours when Ebay says 12. I still think they may not have been able to end it and it seems they did end the listing.
I also somehow managed to reply to the last post on page one, I wasn't paying enough attention , and therefore missed your link.
@FlyingAl said: @MFeld, It is interesting that the seller stated 24 hours when Ebay says 12. I still think they may not have been able to end it and it seems they did end the listing.
I also somehow managed to reply to the last post on page one, I wasn't paying enough attention , and therefore missed your link.
I don’t recall the timing. But I believe that the seller was unable to end the listing and that he cancelled it after it ended on its own. Then, eBay subsequently removed it. Lots of action!😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
But not before it went to "sold." Does eBay notify the buyer and block or reverse the sale when this happens? Look for it to show up again.
No, sale was ended; the seller is a large known account and reportedly a seated expert so I wouldn't expect to see it again in that venue.
I have no reason to doubt your assessment of the seller, which makes me wonder why a seated specialist wouldn't catch, what appears to be an easy to spot altered mm on a rare coin. It makes me wonder why this coin was offered for sale in the first place. Or am I over thinking it?
@kaz posted "I reported it and messaged the seller" on May 28, 2022 12:53PM
It appears the seller may have had more than 24 hours notice.
I'm not sure about buying what they are saying and if this person is a Seated expert they should have caught it.
@ifthevamzarockin said: @kaz posted "I reported it and messaged the seller" on May 28, 2022 12:53PM
It appears the seller may have had more than 24 hours notice.
I'm not sure about buying what they are saying and if this person is a Seated expert they should have caught it.
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could you imagine missing a small cc on a 93-cc or a 85-cc morgan etc? it would have to be a ROUGH day. lol
@ifthevamzarockin said: @kaz posted "I reported it and messaged the seller" on May 28, 2022 12:53PM
It appears the seller may have had more than 24 hours notice.
I'm not sure about buying what they are saying and if this person is a Seated expert they should have caught it.
Not taking anyone's side here, but I sell on eBay myself and I'm not online 24/7. If someone sends me a message, I may not see it until the next day. And if it's a holiday weekend...
@MasonG said:
Not taking anyone's side here, but I sell on eBay myself and I'm not online 24/7. If someone sends me a message, I may not see it until the next day. And if it's a holiday weekend...
For sure! +1
Maybe @kaz can check what time they replied to his message.
@ifthevamzarockin said: @kaz posted "I reported it and messaged the seller" on May 28, 2022 12:53PM
It appears the seller may have had more than 24 hours notice.
I'm not sure about buying what they are saying and if this person is a Seated expert they should have caught it.
Not taking anyone's side here, but I sell on eBay myself and I'm not online 24/7. If someone sends me a message, I may not see it until the next day. And if it's a holiday weekend...
thanks for the reminder. i meant to set up email notifications upon receipt of messages for everyone's benefit. it seems like maybe some accounts do and others don't.
The seller had plenty of time. Here is the message I sent to him on May 23rd:
FYI - This coin has an obviously added mint mark. The "CC" shape and position do not match the only known reverse die for this year. 1376 1871 CC dollars were minted and all have the same reverse die, which looks nothing like your coin.
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Regards
@mbogoman said:
I didn't post here until I had given the seller plenty of time to respond. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt...
Well played all the way around, @mbogoman. You are a valuable asset to the forum and the hobby for taking these efforts, as well as alerting/educating us.
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Unless something has changed, the buyer will be notified by eBay. Additionally, the seller is reported as having said - hopefully truthfully - that he cancelled the sale after it closed.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
long ago, i had ebay do this type of thing. i don't recall what types of items they were but when i received the notification, i was pretty shocked. i did a LOT less research then but at the same time don't really recall being scammed which makes their catching it the few times i may have been even more impressive. of course they could have been just doing risk assessment on the safe side, who knows?
The seller messaged and said they cancelled the sale as they were made aware it was counterfeit less than 24 hours prior to the auction ending which you apparently can’t cancel.
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it has been a while since i canceled an auction with bids but at that time, it did prompt the option to cancel bids before ending and that was with 12 hours or less left. i have to look up the new language, if any, for changes to this option.
With fewer than 12 hours left, you cannot end an auction that has 1 or more bids with reserve price met or no reserve price set. You can only sell to the high bidder.
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/creating-managing-listings/ending-listing?id=4146
See eBay link below - it appears that seller was correct about the 12 hours cutoff.
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/creating-managing-listings/cancelling-listing?id=4146
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Good for the seller, then.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
the dummy account is back up and ready to frustrate.
look forward to the next one of these.
The listing was removed...> @messydesk said:
No, sale was ended; the seller is a large known account and reportedly a seated expert so I wouldn't expect to see it again in that venue.
I also messaged the seller, they responded that you cannot end an auction within 24 hours before it ends. They said they let it finish and immediately cancelled the sale. I've never sold on eBay so I'm not sure if the first statement is true.
Coin Photographer.
It is true, under the circumstances of the listing at that time. See this link I provided earlier:
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/creating-managing-listings/cancelling-listing?id=4146
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld, It is interesting that the seller stated 24 hours when Ebay says 12. I still think they may not have been able to end it and it seems they did end the listing.
I also somehow managed to reply to the last post on page one, I wasn't paying enough attention
, and therefore missed your link.
Coin Photographer.
I don’t recall the timing. But I believe that the seller was unable to end the listing and that he cancelled it after it ended on its own. Then, eBay subsequently removed it. Lots of action!😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I have no reason to doubt your assessment of the seller, which makes me wonder why a seated specialist wouldn't catch, what appears to be an easy to spot altered mm on a rare coin. It makes me wonder why this coin was offered for sale in the first place. Or am I over thinking it?
@kaz posted "I reported it and messaged the seller" on May 28, 2022 12:53PM
It appears the seller may have had more than 24 hours notice.
I'm not sure about buying what they are saying and if this person is a Seated expert they should have caught it.
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could you imagine missing a small cc on a 93-cc or a 85-cc morgan etc? it would have to be a ROUGH day. lol
Not taking anyone's side here, but I sell on eBay myself and I'm not online 24/7. If someone sends me a message, I may not see it until the next day. And if it's a holiday weekend...
For sure! +1
Maybe @kaz can check what time they replied to his message.
thanks for the reminder. i meant to set up email notifications upon receipt of messages for everyone's benefit. it seems like maybe some accounts do and others don't.
The seller had plenty of time. Here is the message I sent to him on May 23rd:
FYI - This coin has an obviously added mint mark. The "CC" shape and position do not match the only known reverse die for this year. 1376 1871 CC dollars were minted and all have the same reverse die, which looks nothing like your coin.
_
Regards
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
I didn't post here until I had given the seller plenty of time to respond. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt...
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
seller replied to me on 5/29 at 19:25.
Well played all the way around, @mbogoman. You are a valuable asset to the forum and the hobby for taking these efforts, as well as alerting/educating us.