Wednesday Night GTG (Grade Posted!)

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DelawareDoons
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edited May 19, 2022 6:17PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Grade posted here.

It's CAC, obviously.

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  • Aspie_Rocco
    Aspie_Rocco Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS66PL
    Looks gorgeous!

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  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll go first. 67 PL

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  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice one! 66PL?

  • Relaxn
    Relaxn Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    7PL

  • rainbowroosie
    rainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice obverse, the die polish detracts a bit on the reverse. I’d grade it 67+… so it’s probably in a 65 holder🙃

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    At the point when the grade is unknown, how can it be obvious that the coin’s been stickered?

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  • FlyingAl
    FlyingAl Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    67PL.

    @MFeld, the sticker is visible in the pictures.

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  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    6+pl

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  • scotty4449
    scotty4449 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66 DMPL?

  • TomB
    TomB Posts: 23,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:
    At the point when the grade is unknown, how can it be obvious that the coin’s been stickered?

    In the original images there is a portion of a CAC sticker showing.

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  • jughead1893
    jughead1893 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    67

  • Davidcoins
    Davidcoins Posts: 65 ✭✭✭
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    66PL

  • WilliamF
    WilliamF Posts: 866 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66PL, I was thinking it almost merited a DMPL but I don't think it quite got there, what a beauty!

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2022 7:16PM
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    @TomB said:

    @MFeld said:
    At the point when the grade is unknown, how can it be obvious that the coin’s been stickered?

    In the original images there is a portion of a CAC sticker showing.

    Ah, thanks FlyingAl and Tom - that’s what I get for focusing on just the coin.😉
    I’ll guess MS67.

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  • Relaxn
    Relaxn Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    7PL> @MFeld said:

    At the point when the grade is unknown, how can it be obvious that the coin’s been stickered?

    I was not willing to make that comment. Did not want to appear flippant. Lol

  • GRANDAM
    GRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1881-S come very nice. It that was a tougher date I would say MS67.

    As an 1881-S I say MS66

    GrandAm :)
  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66+

  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pretty sure the solid insert was phased out before the plus grades were brought in, I'll say 67PL. And at the same time I cannot help but wonder if that small scratch did/or would result in a details grade.

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  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    68PL

  • JBN
    JBN Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    67

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I am thinking 66.... Small dings on cheek and chin, light field scratch on reverse... Cheers, RickO

  • DelawareDoons
    DelawareDoons Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @coinbuf said:
    Pretty sure the solid insert was phased out before the plus grades were brought in

    Long, long before. Well over a decade prior. Fatties ended in '95, plus grades launched in 2010.

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  • HighRelief
    HighRelief Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS66

  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think it's better, yet to buck the trend I'll go MS65.

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66 from me, like!

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm at 67, no PL

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  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I will guess 66, but a very nice 66.

    Some chatter in the left field may hold it back from a 67B, which is why it got a green bean. JA may have thought it was 67C.

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  • Meltdown
    Meltdown Posts: 9,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    An easy 66 if I had to guess.

  • BigMoose
    BigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
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    1. No PL
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  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think Liberty is a 67, beautiful face and cheek, but I'm not a good grader from photos with toning covering the fields, so without seeing the coin inhand, I will assume the fields are clean(bad to assume) and say 67 overall.
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  • clarkbar04
    clarkbar04 Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    7PL

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @coinbuf said:
    Pretty sure the solid insert was phased out before the plus grades were brought in, I'll say 67PL. And at the same time I cannot help but wonder if that small scratch did/or would result in a details grade.

    .
    i even thought to myself as making my guess, hmm, a soapbar. yet i STILL posted a + grade guess. :D

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  • relicsncoins
    relicsncoins Posts: 8,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll go 67, looks very nice.

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  • JJM
    JJM Posts: 8,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 19, 2022 11:42AM
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    66(Star)PL

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 19, 2022 12:31PM
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    @JJM said:
    66(Star)PL

    For what reason do you think they might have have given the coin a "Star"?

    I asked because, if the coin's designated PL and "Star", I'd think that the only reason it could have received the "Star" would have been either for great color or borderline DMPL surfaces. And I don't see either of those possibilities in the images provided.

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  • privatecoin
    privatecoin Posts: 3,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66

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  • DelawareDoons
    DelawareDoons Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll post the grade at 9:00 Eastern tonight

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  • DelawareDoons
    DelawareDoons Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Last hour bump

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  • DrewU
    DrewU Posts: 208 ✭✭✭✭
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    67

  • thefinn
    thefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS67

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  • clarkbar04
    clarkbar04 Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sweet..

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Worthy of such a grade. Nice Morgan!

  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @DelawareDoons said:
    Congrats to those of you who got it right. For whatever it's worth, I don't think it would go PL today.

    @gumby1234 @Relaxn @FlyingAl @coinbuf @clarkbar04

    JA thinks it would - I know he does not confirm + grades, but my understanding is PL, DMPL, etc is confirmed by the green bean. But certainly that is no guarantee the grading services would.

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  • DelawareDoons
    DelawareDoons Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 20, 2022 9:56AM
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    @Connecticoin said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    Congrats to those of you who got it right. For whatever it's worth, I don't think it would go PL today.

    @gumby1234 @Relaxn @FlyingAl @coinbuf @clarkbar04

    JA thinks it would - I know he does not confirm + grades, but my understanding is PL, DMPL, etc is confirmed by the green bean. But certainly that is no guarantee the grading services would.

    As I understand, it just means it's PL by his standards, not that a TPG would PL it today. I freely admit that my standards for PL/DMPL are tougher than his.

    But you are correct, designation has to be to CAC's standards to bean, as well as the numerical grade.

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  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @DelawareDoons Would you sell it at MS67 no PL?

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 20, 2022 11:09AM
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    @gumby1234 said:
    @DelawareDoons Would you sell it at MS67 no PL?

    Seriously, why would he do that (unless at a PL price), when it’s (edited) NGC/CAC PL?

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  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 20, 2022 11:01AM
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    @MFeld He said he doubts it would get a PL grade today so I was wondering.

    EDIT also its an NGC slab

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 20, 2022 11:24AM
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    @gumby1234 said:
    @MFeld He said he doubts it would get a PL grade today so I was wondering.

    EDIT also its an NGC slab

    Thank you for the “EDIT”.
    It doesn’t matter that he doubts it would go PL today. And for that matter, it wouldn’t matter if he thought it was over-graded, either. He can get 67PL money for it, as is. And unless he wants to give money away, why would he sell it for non-PL money?

    I commend @DelawareDoons for his objectivity and openness in sharing his thoughts about the coin.

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