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Given the thefts of coins in recent times, do you keep a list of the TPG slab numbers?

Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

Given the thefts of coins in recent times, do you keep a list of the TPG slab numbers along with coin type and grade? I keep track of all TPG numbers as well as where I bought them and cost in a spreadsheet I keep backups in the cloud and various drives.

What do you do?

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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have to maintain an inventory for my business. Why would I not use the TPG slab numbers as well? Very easy to do. I don't know why you wouldn't use them.

    And has 0 to do with theft, but it is a way that things could be reported if the worst case scenario happened...

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    For PCGS coins, I use the registry inventory system. Easy.

    Is PCGS all you have? No ANACS or NGC or other?

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2022 1:26PM

    @Herb_T said:

    @BryceM said:
    For PCGS coins, I use the registry inventory system. Easy.

    Is PCGS all you have? No ANACS or NGC or other?

    Of course not. The others are kept in a separate spreadsheet. Documenting the cost basis for acquisitions has important and necessary tax implications. You've got to track it somehow.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    considering the advanced technological times we live in, is it possible to just scan bar codes of pcgs/ngc coins to add directly to registry sets?

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  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excel spreadsheet for everything..........& PCGS registry, and yes, I only have PCGS coins in my collections.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2022 1:39PM

    I have 4 high end photographs of every one of my 700 TPG Coins including serial numbers.

    Each Coin is unique.

    In my case, my coins can only go to a select few for top dollar and I know most all of them.

    I am not worried about theft.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in the photo camp as well as spreadsheets. I have photos of all my collection and most of my inventory, raw and certified.

    Photos I'm sure played a big part in getting a Postal Clerk getting busted for stealing a registered package I shipped thanks to Doug at numismatic crimes!

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    considering the advanced technological times we live in, is it possible to just scan bar codes of pcgs/ngc coins to add directly to registry sets?

    With the PCGS registry app, yes. You can scan the PCGS barcode or tap the NFC to add to your inventory and registry. You’d have to manually enter other slabs.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2022 2:19PM

    Excell spreadsheet, the NGC registry as a backup, and the PCGS registry/inventory as a second backup.

    I would guess that the majority of collectors use some type of spreadsheet to keep track of things, this will be of greater importance going forward with the recent tax changes.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TurtleCat said:

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    considering the advanced technological times we live in, is it possible to just scan bar codes of pcgs/ngc coins to add directly to registry sets?

    With the PCGS registry app, yes. You can scan the PCGS barcode or tap the NFC to add to your inventory and registry. You’d have to manually enter other slabs.

    that is good. for those not interested in registry can at least add coins for a pseudo-inventory.

    now i think about it though, unless they add images it may not be as effective as i originally thought. also, they would have to be removed manually as well. so probably too inefficient. easier to just take pics and keep them of the whole slabs?

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes and in a safe place 🤐

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have photos of the coins close up and in the slab.

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @TurtleCat said:

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    considering the advanced technological times we live in, is it possible to just scan bar codes of pcgs/ngc coins to add directly to registry sets?

    With the PCGS registry app, yes. You can scan the PCGS barcode or tap the NFC to add to your inventory and registry. You’d have to manually enter other slabs.

    that is good. for those not interested in registry can at least add coins for a pseudo-inventory.

    now i think about it though, unless they add images it may not be as effective as i originally thought. also, they would have to be removed manually as well. so probably too inefficient. easier to just take pics and keep them of the whole slabs?

    If there are trueviews they are automatically added. When you use the app and scan in you’re asked if you want to take a pic. So you can choose to take pics with your phone right away.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TurtleCat said:
    If there are trueviews they are automatically added. When you use the app and scan in you’re asked if you want to take a pic. So you can choose to take pics with your phone right away.

    is there just an inventory list and not a registry list per se, so that way coins can be added, organized and imaged w/o having to be removed later?

    something like this could be recommended to doug davis for his/their alerts but the tweaks to make it easy and effective for everyone would need be worked out and then tell people, do this. 1, 2, 3 etc to cover yourself and not make it a pain for others wanting to add coins to their registry later on.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Absolutely. Spreadsheet with Coin, TPG (if any), Cert # (if any), Grade (if uncertified, my grade), Attribution, Description, Date of purchase, from who, and how much. Doesn't matter what TPG (or raw).

    Also have links to my drive for pictures.

    I also keep PCGS coins on the Registry, either as part of a set or in inventory.


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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nope never saw a need in such a thing

  • Stingray63Stingray63 Posts: 299 ✭✭✭

    I have an Excel spreadsheet for my graded coins very similar to @pursuitofliberty with:
    Year/Coin/Grade/TPG/Cost/Current Value/Cert#/Source Purchased From

    On different tabs of that same worksheet I have a tab for Raw and another for Sold.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, all well documented along with high resolution images. I suggest high quality images as most crooks aren't stupid enough to sell them in their slabs but fortunately, some are :D

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I use an Excel spreadsheet and photographs too. I've hypertext linked the image files into Excel in the past... not sure if I'll keep that up once I give my life up to The Cloud, but it sure is handy on my laptop...

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why wouldn't you keep a detailed list?

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  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I enter my non-PCGS slab numbers (and other details) into the PCGS registry, as well.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 5,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Photos I'm sure played a big part in getting a Postal Clerk getting busted for stealing a registered package I shipped thanks to Doug at numismatic crimes!

    Good for you. One is guilty of a FELONY if convicted for stealing mail. I suspect many a PO employee doesn't realize this.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Herb_T said:

    @BryceM said:
    For PCGS coins, I use the registry inventory system. Easy.

    Is PCGS all you have? No ANACS or NGC or other?

    The PCGS inventory site allows you to add non-PCGS coins as well. Other TPG's...even raw.

    Of course only the PCGS-graded coins are eligible for registry inclusion. That's a secondary matter if you primary concern is tracking what you bought, when, where, for how much, and with images.

    When you sell you can change its state, cite the selling price, date, buyer, etc. All of which can be retrieved.

    My chief complaint is that it is slow.
    Lance.

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @TurtleCat said:
    If there are trueviews they are automatically added. When you use the app and scan in you’re asked if you want to take a pic. So you can choose to take pics with your phone right away.

    is there just an inventory list and not a registry list per se, so that way coins can be added, organized and imaged w/o having to be removed later?

    something like this could be recommended to doug davis for his/their alerts but the tweaks to make it easy and effective for everyone would need be worked out and then tell people, do this. 1, 2, 3 etc to cover yourself and not make it a pain for others wanting to add coins to their registry later on.

    Yes, in the registry section you have a separate inventory from the registry sets. The inventory becomes the source of coins for when you put together a set. If you never create a registry set, you will just have the inventory list. There are also “states” of inventory indicating if something is active, for sale or sold, for example. It’s pretty handy.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1874 said:
    Photos I'm sure played a big part in getting a Postal Clerk getting busted for stealing a registered package I shipped thanks to Doug at numismatic crimes!

    Good for you. One is guilty of a FELONY if convicted for stealing mail. I suspect many a PO employee doesn't realize this.

    I didn't know much about it or who it was until Covid hit. They let the B**** out of jail early because of covid. They were required to send me a letter informing me. Funny the Postal Inspector would tell me none of the details!

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:

    @Herb_T said:

    @BryceM said:
    For PCGS coins, I use the registry inventory system. Easy.

    Is PCGS all you have? No ANACS or NGC or other?

    The PCGS inventory site allows you to add non-PCGS coins as well. Other TPG's...even raw.

    Of course only the PCGS-graded coins are eligible for registry inclusion. That's a secondary matter if you primary concern is tracking what you bought, when, where, for how much, and with images.

    When you sell you can change its state, cite the selling price, date, buyer, etc. All of which can be retrieved.

    My chief complaint is that it is slow.
    Lance.

    Slow, yes, but when you only buy one coin every 3-4 months it seems to work OK. :'(

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember all the coins I've owned in the last 25 years, I could get cert. numbers, etc. one way or another. One key is having an effective secure plan, safe deposit box or safe bolted to your floor.

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I use PCGS and NGC websites to keep track of my slabs as well as a spreadsheet for raw and slabbed coins with all info listed.

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a photo of every slab, and a hand written log book with serial numbers and purchase cost

    Ive reduced my collection to under 80 slabs and a Dansco ASE date set

    Very tidy

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I use the PCGS inventory (registry) app. For non Pcgs excel spreadsheet.

    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,354 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have pics of everything, and an Excel doc with date acquired / cost basis info. Nothing fancy.

    Dave

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  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well shucks fellas, I don’t do any of these things. Mine are all just sitting in a box.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, I focus on security... A few layers.... Very effective. Cheers, RickO

  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2022 7:50AM

    if anyone of us or others would be stealing slabbed coins....whatever grades
    would we be so stupid and keep them in the slab?
    coins can easily be altered so that images do hardly match any longer.
    only (IMO) a sytem where macro tags or similar are inserted / attached into the actual coin by laser will work to ID it.
    the technology is available...however, will collectors accept it knowing the coin is tagged even when nearly invisible?

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think good security is important - home safe, SDB, good security practice at shows / traveling.

    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency
  • FrankHFrankH Posts: 773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I keep ALL data on ALL coins on Collective Coin.
    Raw as well as slabs and ALL countries.

    Pictures, numbers, cost, notes and they have a good PRIVATE notes section, too.

    Family knows the link to it. :)

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    the technology is available...however, will collectors accept it knowing the coin is tagged even when nearly invisible?

    .
    hmmm.

    they laser cut diamonds/gems to do such a thing, perhaps it can be done between reeds?

    i think there would be a pretty big sector of coins something like this would work for. valuable enough to go through the time and trouble (providing it can be done en masses affordably) but not so valuable that the coins couldn't be resubmitted for the sake of being identified.

    i watched a vid(s) recently about essentially nano machines (bots) performing useful tasks actually being used on the human body, so the tech is MORE than far enough along. all about acceptance and cost. (i'll dig into this more)

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PSA

    show and shop travelers. iphone airtags.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfXyRUwvQ8Q

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  • AvocetAvocet Posts: 226 ✭✭✭✭

    I do keep inventory, images, and notes in addition to use of a safe.

  • BearlyHereBearlyHere Posts: 261 ✭✭✭✭

    My registry is NCG only since it appears PCGS does not count NCG slabs for competitive purposes. I have 633 slabs from both TPG competing there.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes for PCGS - provided by phone app.

    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency

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