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1893 Indian Head Cent Real Or Counterfeit...

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks polished to me as well, jmo

  • Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:
    Looks polished to me as well, jmo

    But is it real? I had this posted for sale and people were questioning it.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coll3ctor said:

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 44,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks real. Struck with a die that had a lot of die erosion which shows it had a lot of use before this coin was struck.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Polished to death. Possibly used or intended for jewelry.

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  • Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭
    edited April 26, 2022 11:59AM

    @291fifth said:
    Polished to death. Possibly used or intended for jewelry.

    Polished to death, used for jewelry, some of you guys are brutal, lol!

    I'm asking if it's real or counterfeit...

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's genuine.
    I like it. Any chance you could PM me the details of where it is being offered?

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks good to me too. Problems as noted above.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks OK to me, jmo

  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    UNC details... (cleaned/recolored)

  • I agree with most answers. Can clearly see the Die wear. Certainly genuine imo

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,032 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am going to be the contrarian and say counterfeit. The whole thing doesn’t look right to me. If it’s been polished that much, why is it so sharp, and why are the die fatigue markings so pronounced? Also, if it was struck with late die state dies, why are the design devices so sharp? The whole thing does not add up to me.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2022 3:49AM

    As a follow-up, here are images from Coin Facts of Mint State and Proof pieces.

    The rims on the OP coin look like a Proof, but why would a Proof have that kind of die fatigue?

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  • JWPJWP Posts: 14,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I definitely would have bought it if I would have come across it before you did. It looks authentic to me my skills on determining counterfeit is not very good. However, the clean and shiny look would be a big question my mind about the coin, but I probably would have bought it anyhow.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks authentic to me too, but heavily "processed" in some way.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That IHC looks strange to me. I cannot say it is counterfeit, but the image is strange and I agree with the points @BillJones raised.... I would like to see commentary from Rick Snow on this one. Cheers, RickO

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Real but whizzed.


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  • Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭

    @JWP said:
    I definitely would have bought it if I would have come across it before you did. It looks authentic to me my skills on determining counterfeit is not very good. However, the clean and shiny look would be a big question my mind about the coin, but I probably would have bought it anyhow.

    It's currently up for auction but it was temporally pulled because someone questioned it's authenticity.

  • JWPJWP Posts: 14,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coll3ctor just curious, what's the price of a at the auction right now?

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unless I am reading it wrong it was at $85.

    peacockcoins

  • Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    Unless I am reading it wrong it was at $85.

    It's above $90.00 now...> @JWP said:

    @Coll3ctor just curious, what's the price of a at the auction right now?

    Current bid is $94.00

  • JWPJWP Posts: 14,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coll3ctor said:

    @braddick said:
    Unless I am reading it wrong it was at $85.

    It's above $90.00 now...> @JWP said:

    @Coll3ctor just curious, what's the price of a at the auction right now?

    Current bid is $94.00

    Thank you

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