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Tell me why! I don't like toning.. Tell me why! I don't like toning, Tell me why...

Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

I don't like, I don't like, I don't like toning... B)

But many of you do,, why do you like toning on silver coins? Natural, Rainbow, Colorful, Bright, etc... Why do you prefer to add to your collection tone coins? Do you pay a premium?

For me, I like the natural luster of brilliant cartwheel silver, tell me are you for or against toning and why..?

For those of you who remember this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F0voC9Ah-0

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You lose more potential buyers with toning than with lustrous white coins in my opinion. Possibly one reason could be that the toning is hiding something.

    Is it harder for graders to "see" the surfaces objectively with toned coins? I believe so. A heavily toned MS65 coin often raises questions as to whether it is a real gem or how it would grade if dipped? I have had Unc. graded coins go AU when dipped.

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    Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    This is one reason I like them

    I just found this yesterday in a Coinstar...

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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You don't like toning because ummm, because some are priced 10X more than a Blast White...........That's Why
    Happy Now :smiley:

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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,013 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The right kind of toning adds eye appeal. The coins in a set of Morgans ALL BLAST WHITE have a monotonous similarity that can be a turn off.If I was to get out such a set and look at them one by one, things would get old real quick.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joe_360 You said you don't like toning, but you clicked like under my Roosie? So do you like it or not I am confused now. LOL

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    Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Joe_360 You said you don't like toning, but you clicked like under my Roosie? So do you like it or not I am confused now. LOL

    1) I like coins and I am glad that you responded to my post, so I hit like. 2) I also wanted to share with you a coin that I found.

    I will not be offended by anyone replies, it's just a discussion.. Thanks Joe

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love some toned coins, but will not buy them for the grade, as I am not certain about what is hiding beneath the beauty. It's one thing to buy a coin for its color, but another to buy a toned coin for a high grade. I am not proficient at grading toned coins to waste money(my opinion) on a coin that I am not sure of the grade or even agree with the grade. JMO
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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always nice to find any silver in your change. I only like nicely toned coins. Lots of ugly toners out there.

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    Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:

    "I Love Toned Coins!"

    Lol. When all said and done, it's a preference. To each his/her own, right? Just like some people like the wood grain effect on Lincolns. Some don't. Or errors/varieties. The toning brings something original and artistically different to the table. Almost like a fine painting to catch one's eye.
    Now, I'm only talking the natural toning.
    Us "Toned deaf" collectors. Lol. Really get our eye candy juices flowing when there is a Natural toned "Rainbow Effect" on the coin! What beauty to see nature's magnificent spectrum of dazzling colors on our hobby's main attraction. The Coin!
    I'm not even mentioning the financial beneficiaries. Some collectors are willing to spend astronomical prices to add one of these treasures into their inventory.
    Believe me, I know! I sold these 4 Silver Eagle delights for over $900+, in which I only paid, overall, $300 for. That's more than a $600 profit. You have to admit it.
    "The Toning Game", isn't going away no time soon!
    For collectors like you and our dear friend, RickO. It's all up to you.
    It's the famous saying around here.
    "Collect what YOU like, not what others like!" Lol. Here is my latest dream Toned specimen. It's what "I" like! And apparently others do as well. I continue to get compliments about my Bugs Bunny!
    By the way,

    "Happy Easter"

    Everybody.
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    Not kidding. If you check PCGS 's Coin Facts section on the TrueView's in that Franklin category. My Bengy stands out against the others by far!
    Lol. Thank You. For reading my rant.
    ;)

    Thanks for your reply Joey, and you are correct, it's a preference and to each their own... At the end of the day, we are all on this forum and reading such posts because we love coins!!!

    My bright white new Benny bought on this forum. Joe

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    Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 15, 2022 8:24AM

    @joeykoins
    Happy Easter to you as well. And to all Forum Members, Joe

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    ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's all a personal preference. However if the toning is splotchy, very uneven or has dull spots, it will be a hard sell (or buy) no matter what. There are ugly toned coins and ugly white coins as well - a blast white VF silver coin is ugly to me.

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    Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    Some of us like blonds. Some like brunettes. Different strokes for different folks.

    What... you don't like Redheads!??? ;)

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reactive metals are inherently unstable and inevitably, sooner or later, react with other elements and chemicals that they are exposed to. Sometimes the reactions impart visible discolorations that can be either attractive or unattractive.

    I go to great lengths to try and keep my untoned coins from reacting with things by using desiccants, intercept shield products, etc. and also for my attractively toned coins to prevent them from progressing to a terminal state.

    What I don’t like is coins that are repeatedly cleaned in an attempt to keep them from developing toning. It strips off the surface and makes the surface more reactive and ends up ruining the coin

    Mr_Spud

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For most coin series anyone can have a blast white coin. Finding a nicely toned example is much more difficult.

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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 15,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 15, 2022 9:10AM

    Forgot to mention.
    I also love the "White" blasting coins, as well. Love the glimmer from the sheen.
    Esp. the RickO, approved.
    :D
    I have many in my collection.

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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    100+ year old white silver looks unnatural to me. But heck, to each his own.

    Dave

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I never liked an overly toned coin, it does not look right to me. Lighter toning is ok, fwiw. Happy Easter all 🙂

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good luck finding an Isabella quarter that is not toned....

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    lermishlermish Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Good luck finding an Isabella quarter that is not toned....

    I have one in grading right now! Couple of small oxidation spots on the reverse but otherwise cartwheel white.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @logger7 said:
    Good luck finding an Isabella quarter that is not toned....

    I have one in grading right now! Couple of small oxidation spots on the reverse but otherwise cartwheel white.

    Let us know when it gets added to the Coinfacts images, as you can see most all are toned:

    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1893-25c-isabella/images/9220

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dave99B said:
    100+ year old white silver looks unnatural to me. But heck, to each his own.

    Dave

    100 years is near the dividing line for me. I can accept a lustrous white Barber or Morgan, but nothing earlier.

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    lermishlermish Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 15, 2022 10:49AM

    @logger7 said:

    Let us know when it gets added to the Coinfacts images, as you can see most all are toned:

    I've seen that. The toners are beautiful but if everything is toned then blast white becomes special instead of the inverse.

    I absolutely will share; I think/hope I have a few special coins in there so will make a lengthy post once trueviews are available but given current circumstances and that it was just received yesterday I wouldn't hold your breath...

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Broadstruck said:
    Okay I'll take a stab at why you don't like toning! :D

    A.) You're ricko's Siamese twin conjoined at the brain separated at birth? ;)

    B.) You're ricko's ALT keeping him from hitting 100K in posts? ;)

    That’s hilarious😂

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    Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @crazyhounddog said:

    @Broadstruck said:
    Okay I'll take a stab at why you don't like toning! :D

    A.) You're ricko's Siamese twin conjoined at the brain separated at birth? ;)

    B.) You're ricko's ALT keeping him from hitting 100K in posts? ;)

    That’s hilarious😂

    Where is @ricko on this topic?

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,000 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joe_360 said:

    @crazyhounddog said:

    @Broadstruck said:
    Okay I'll take a stab at why you don't like toning! :D

    A.) You're ricko's Siamese twin conjoined at the brain separated at birth? ;)

    B.) You're ricko's ALT keeping him from hitting 100K in posts? ;)

    That’s hilarious😂

    Where is @ricko on this topic?

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    jt88jt88 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joe_360 said:
    I don't like, I don't like, I don't like toning... B)

    But many of you do,, why do you like toning on silver coins? Natural, Rainbow, Colorful, Bright, etc... Why do you prefer to add to your collection tone coins? Do you pay a premium?

    For me, I like the natural luster of brilliant cartwheel silver, tell me are you for or against toning and why..?

    For those of you who remember this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F0voC9Ah-0

    You really don't know what you are missing!!

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's hiding something ... I like my girls dirty ... in a colorful way!



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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joe_360 said:

    @crazyhounddog said:

    @Broadstruck said:
    Okay I'll take a stab at why you don't like toning! :D

    A.) You're ricko's Siamese twin conjoined at the brain separated at birth? ;)

    B.) You're ricko's ALT keeping him from hitting 100K in posts? ;)

    That’s hilarious😂

    Where is @ricko on this topic?

    That's like asking where's Clark Kent when Superman is logged on here ;)

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it is like a black and white drawing versus a colorful painting, it is more interesting starting with the same drawing but using different color palates to make similar but unique paintings.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2022 12:05AM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsZ0uSdMxME
    Because it's different from most of the normal white coins,
    and people like to search for things that are different than the norm.
    The real question is whether it is more beautiful, and that is a personal value judgement.

    I feel if you want something with beautiful colors, look outside of coins, as there are a lot more choices.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like blast white coins. I also like SOME toned coins. If the toning is dark or blotchy, I'll pass on them. Different strokes for different folks.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not like tarnish in general. Old coins with the circam look are fine, or those with some handling grunge in the devices. Even with tarnish, I can appreciate a coin with good detail and lack of dings, hits, scrapes or scratches. Colorized coins are available from the mint. Tarnish with color has caught the attention of a collector segment. Fine, for them. The market is such that they are being 'produced' and garnishing - in many cases - obscene premiums. I will continue to collect my preference - mint issue appearance, or close to it. I do not sell coins, therefore there is no monetary temptation for me. Those that claim they like originality of coins, and then seek tarnished coins, demonstrate a conflicting interest. Tarnish is not original, it is environmental damage to the original surface. Cheers, RickO

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 17, 2022 10:20AM

    Your not alone. Toning is a polite word for tarnish. It is evidence of the coin surface reaction with the atmosphere which will get worse with time.

    Like you I like brilliant blazing coins with super luster.

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