First pic mine seconed for compairison!
Coinenigmatix
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The picture speaks for itself! 
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Coinenigmatix
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If you are asking if you have the 1958 DDO, you don't. Notice that the 8 in the second picture (the DDO) has doubling up and to the left, while your coin has raised metal down and to the right.
What you do seem to have is a nice die crack around the 8 that led to some raised metal surrounding it. Not worth a premium, but a cool coin.
Coin Photographer.
I can't hear it.
Your right it does speak, it says no dice.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Why didn't you include a pic of IN GOD WE TRUST? Doubled dies come from a single die, so ALL the doubled areas need to match. If they don't, then you don't have it.
BTW: your coin looks like common die deterioration
Wow thought you guys where experts but apparently the only thing your experts on is making negative condisending remarks! coinbuff however although your assesment is incorrect in that there is no shelf doubling present & that I can assure you. But I thank you never the less,at least an honest attempt was made evaluating the images and responding respectfully.
I see no condescension in this thread. You posted a picture of a coin that has no value to speak of. Everyone responding to this thread agreed that is has no value to speak of.
Calling a spade a spade is not condescension.
Looks like this is the second thread on this topic, the first was from 2021. Here's the link: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12829114#Comment_12829114
He didn't get the answers he wanted first time either.
Coin Photographer.
Post pics of other parts of the coin for better identification, but as of right now I say no, just like everyone else has.
And he didn't take advantage of the year to get it certified.
None have ever been found in the wild, to my knowledge.
If I were going to troll the forum, I think I'd post a photo of an actual coin (doctored a bit) rather than keep posting a coin that isn't doubled.
How about you start over and ask a question in your post instead of baiting negative responses?
Collector, occasional seller
You are correct that your coin does not have the shelf doubling that is the hallmark of strike or mechanical doubling, your coin is suffering from die erosion doubling. You can continue telling yourself what you want to believe, but that will not make it true. We would all love for a true 1958 DDO to show up out of the wild and someday that may happen just not this time.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Are you being genuine?
1) you only displayed an image of the date on your coins while displaying all images of the actual DD
2) Do you believe your 5 and 8 look like the reference coin? Seriously?
3) How many coin forums have you posted this in? Have any of them wavered in response?
4) You believe it is the coin? Why are you posting it and not immediately sending it in for authentication and grading?
I think we all know the answers. I am sorry this is not the grandslam you thought it was.. what you told your family it was. I really feel for you. But if you are going to CRH educate yourself not by watching some YouTube videos but by actually reviewing the stiff you are hunting... cherrypicker guide, coinfacts, variety Vista, coneca.. etc etc
NBL
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Where to begin then... This bs about my what I tell my family, way off base. All my family has passed except for my dog moon 🌙 shepherd-wolf hybrid
that doesn't give a crap. Now here's why the coin I showed you is an error coin, A twice over error but I'll get to that in a second. So back in 1958 all the dies that where made did not include the date and mint mark. Some older US coins, and many world coins have other designs on the edge of the coin. Sometimes these are simple designs like vines, more complex bar patterns or perhaps a phrase, as on the United States dollar coin, on which are the date, mintmark, and motto, E Pluribus Unum. Historically these kinds of designs are imparted into the coin through a multisectioned third die called a collar, whose inner edge diameter is the same as that of the edge of the coin. When the obverse and reverse dies strike the planchet the planchet expands to fill the collar, impressing the collar design into the edge of the coin seperate dies made spacific for each mint and when they caught the error they had the dies replaced with new ones with no doubling but they did not change or swap out the ones containg the date stamp.☆The coller die to be more precise. Additionally aside from the obvius doubling on the date there is also RD2 promonintly present........& ((doubling on the coller die)) ,,, is coincidently but also not surprisingly the cause of the rim restricted second strike found restricted very promintly on
the halo of both sides of the coin. Now your welcome to try challenge these facts by saying it's this or that but keep in mind I've managed to locate a scarce few uncerculated and even one circulated version of this very coin I speak on. So yeah,I'd say petty safe to say all that bs you just spouted is just that a bounch of BS
Your understanding of the minting process is very confused.
In any case, the date on your coin is very reminiscent of the so-called "Poor Man's Doubled Die" of 1955, which is due to die erosion.
You have not answered why you didn't show the motto on your coin. We all know the answer, of course. It's because it doesn't match the photo of the known DD that you posted.
I do see that on your thread from last year you posted plenty of photos and they showed that the coin pictured was not the doubled die.
At least they didnt replace the coller die right away anyhow & so a few slipt by unnoticed due to the covert nature and placment of the errors in question. And I know this because if not then the coin with these errors intrinsicly linked to the mint would simply not exist. I currently have four 3 of which are uncurculated mcondition
There is no "collar die" on a Lincoln cent, there is a collar, and there is no date on it.
The fact that you think you have found four of these is the tip off. They would need to match exactly the known examples, and yours don't.
@Coinenigmatix ... If you are not willing to accept the expert inputs from forum members, why do you not send your coins in to PCGS for authentication? Cheers, RickO
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Probably because he’d prefer to live the dream, rather than face reality.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Coinenigmatix
Im beginning to think you're just trolling this board, but just in case you're actually confused about the minting process, here is some info to help
In 1958, the working dies that struck coins had the complete design, date, and mm already present when they were installed in the press. The collars for cents are smooth since there is no reeding or design on the edge. The cooler has nothing to to do with the date or design of your coin