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Do you think this 1814 CBH can grade MS?

Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

Could it make MS63?

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking "Unc details improperly cleaned" especially at NGC. If it has the detail of an Unc. but not the luster, I would not likely see a straight grade.

  • MrBlusterMrBluster Posts: 350 ✭✭✭

    Looks as though it may have seen a dip at one time. Looks unc. Any luster on the coin ?

  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First impression was not original.
    I don't think it grades.

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Something looks off on the left side, not sure what though
    I'm going to be harsh on this one
    AU Details

  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2022 4:47PM

    Been worked on. They had trouble removing a few stubborn dark spots around "RICA" on the reverse. How is the luster?
    Wish there were a tab to upload 5 second video clips here.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2022 4:43PM

    It looks cleaned to me - to the extent that I’d expect a details grade.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it has the sharpness imo but this will boil down to surfaces which the image makes difficult to discern. ie: flatter than a pancake. ;)

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It do look like it spent a bit to much time in dip from the pictures.

  • KensCoins2287KensCoins2287 Posts: 158 ✭✭✭✭

    If that’s the eBay seller I think it is, (their pictures all have a distinctive look), I’ve bought several coins from them and have never been happy with how they looked in hand (cleaned, hidden problems, etc.). Now, it’s possible those were isolated cases, but thought I’d tell you just as an FYI.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleaned.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleaned, unc details

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely looks cleaned...die clashed.... Probably get a details grade. Cheers, RickO

  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :s

    BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pics taken in this style are bad news. The lighting effect makes the detailing pop while obscuring the surfaces. The coin could be fine but don’t take any info from those pics.

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU details, most likely cleaned

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone!

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @numisma said:
    They had trouble removing a few stubborn dark spots around "RICA" on the reverse.

    Not just there, look at the horizontal lines in the shield. Quite a bit of crud there, too.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,327 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cleaned, no luster. Despite the sharpness, the coin can't get anything but a "details" grade.

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