Any info on this unusual PCGS OGH slab?

oreville

oreville

In all my years I have seen only two of them!

I was told they were. prototypes of the then new OGH slab to focus on the new unibody construction .

My retort was this was David Hall’s guess the grade joke.

coinbuf

Perhaps a mechanical error where the obv label was left out.

davewesen

It looks like Generation 3.1 used 3/93 through 9/98 and writing printed with a laser printer.

It has to have some significance or else would not have made it past quality control.
How about a small meeting or training with less than 30 attendants?

oreville

It cannot be a mechanical error as there is a standard checkout process to prevent them from being released in normal channels.

I have been told that It is a prototype slab of the Generation 3.1 used 3/93 through 9/98 which normally used writing printed with a laser printer.

A hint that it is a January or February 1993 prototype slab is that the coin herein is too low in value to be worthy of normally being graded/slabbed….. in this case, a MS-63RD 1960 large date cent still worth less than 25 cents each.

There are others out there but I believe there are only about 8 to 10 in existence. Too many to be a mechanical error and too few to be anything but an extremely rare slab.

oreville

the other one I saw but could not buy had the same identical 1960 large date cent which is further evidence that there are more of them out there as part of a group of up to ten of them.
N
I bought mine in 1996 when the same OGH 3.1 was still in production.

Justacommeman

I think this was part of the short lived name your grade period.

m

numisma

@Justacommeman said:
I think this was part of the short lived name your grade period.

m

I remember that tier. It was expensive, but worth it. Each submission came with a black Sharpie, as I recall.

1Bufffan

This slab according to Dave Schwager's sample slab book is a complete Mystery listed under his number PCGS-001-3-1 (page307) 215 first edition. he said that he even talked with David Hall, he simply said "No Idea" several other employees had several Guesses but no real answer. it was also stated that an eBay seller Kryptonite Comics sold 14 of these Slabs, But the seller stated that he did not know their Origin.

braddick

Rare Doily missing the doily?

MsMorrisine

A mystery in need of an urban legend

pointfivezero

@braddick said:
Rare Doily missing the doily?

The Doily's were Gen 2.0 made for a couple months in the fall of 1989 and had the PCGS logo imprinted in the outer ring:

braddick

So, a rare Doily missing the doily and missing the PCGS imprint on the slab?!

logger7

Common date in high grade. The early slabs, like swamp land in Florida near Disney was bought up by speculators that would be worth a lot now if people held for the duration.

oreville

i also spoke with David Hall and got the same reaction that David Schwager got.

Perhaps Dannreuther might recall? I forgot to ask him.

Oh yes I now recall Kryptonite Comics selling a whole bunch of these slabs but he was down to selling only 8 of these slabs…did not know he started with 14 of them.

The larger quantity of these slabs further demonstrates to me that they had to be some kind of prototype set of sample slabs. What else could they be?

Cameonut

Interesting slabs.
Only thing I can think of is perhaps they are test slabs, run across new equipment.

Edited to add:
Might also explain the recently posted slab with a big letter A marked by hand. Could be A vs B comparisons on new equipment or tooling.

oreville

@Cameonut said:
Interesting slabs.
Only thing I can think of is perhaps they are test slabs, run across new equipment.

Edited to add:
Might also explain the recently posted slab with a big letter A marked by hand. Could be A vs B comparisons on new equipment or tooling.

i agree. Test or prototype. Close enough.

oreville

Thinking about Cameonuts’s comment some more, I think he nailed it.

Test slabs. Makes the most sense.

Lakesammman

It's similar to a rattler that I have in a Sample thread. Interesting piece - thanks for posting it.

oreville

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joeykoins

Looks like the same Old Green Holder, I picked up yesterday?

Your Slab

ricko

Likely a test slab as mentioned above. Then the slab test people, providing their own coins, kept the slabs and eventually sold them. Cheers, RickO

BStrauss3

@joeykoins said:
Looks like the same Old Green Holder, I picked up yesterday?

Those are not samples. They come from a Scott Travers / Random House Coin collecting kit. Variously the population is listed as 15k, 30k, or 50k were made. If you check David's book, there's an extra picture of the kit that I provided.

oreville

@BStrauss3 said:

@joeykoins said:
Looks like the same Old Green Holder, I picked up yesterday?

Those are not samples. They come from a Scott Travers / Random House Coin collecting kit. Variously the population is listed as 15k, 30k, or 50k were made. If you check David's book, there's an extra picture of the kit that I provided.

Agreed these are not samples but still considered to be part of the family of non-regular coin submissions and fun to collect.

Once you collect one of them, you will want to collect all the dates that were included with the book. These should still be quite inexpensive to buy at under $10 to $15 each but prices have been rising.

BStrauss3

And there's a certain date for which only one example is known. They're all Philly, so it's not the 1922 NoD.

Plus you need the completer piece, where the coin is backwards in the slab.

ECHOES

I have two, 1959, 1960-D

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/997442/the-official-pcgs-blank-label-slab-census#latest

oreville

@ECHOES said:
I have two, 1959, 1960-D

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/997442/the-official-pcgs-blank-label-slab-census#latest

You are rich!!! LOL.