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1964 sms penny?
Melior_Invenidiste
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Unlikely without provenance I know, but thought those who may wish to offer an opinion in the matter might.
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Melior_Invenidiste
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Nice coin.
You have a proof. You will not ever have a 1964 SMS unless you buy a certified one. None will EVER be found in the wild. Done, end of story.
On the bright side, you have a fairly nice proof. Do some research on those proofs and you might just catch the 1950-64 proofs bug. It's a fun area to collect!
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It's not "unlikely", it's impossible. There is a difference between those two scenarios.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Not.
No need to show more past picture #1
It simply isn’t SMS it’s a proof
No one accidentally made a shiny SMS coin.
As noted above, and in many other posts, it is not, it cannot be, and will never be, a '64 SMS found in the wild. Cheers, RickO
And - if you disagree, you can send it to PCGS (or NGC, ANACS, etc., ) and prove us all wrong...
WS
Nice, but nope.
It is a nice proof coin and great pictures.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
Just another very common 1964 proof cent.
Could this a 1964 sms penny
1983 seems to be a double nose
Howdy and welcome.
The short answer is that you do not own an SMS 1964 Lincoln cent. The longer version is that the coins recognized and certified as 1964 SMS pieces all came from the estate of the US Mint Director at the time of their 1964 production. That requirement is one of the central definitions as to how 1964 SMS coinage is recognized. If it didn't come directly from the estate, and if it doesn't have the paperwork to prove that it came directly from the estate, then there is no way, no how that the coin will be a 1964 SMS. All of the pieces from the estate were auctioned off decades ago and have been certified already.
We on these boards have this question "do I have a 1964 SMS..." asked rather frequently, which is why so many folks will give short answers to you. I expect that there are myriad YouTube videos out there screaming to folks that they might have tens of thousands of dollars in their pocket change and using the 1964 SMS pieces as an example. As with much on the internet, there is a kernel of truth in the videos, but they are otherwise sadly mistaken and likely intentionally manipulative in order to get clicks and dollars from ad revenue.
You may or may not like it on these boards and you may or may not want to stick with coins, but there are certain hot button questions that we get bombarded with over and over and over. Good luck with your endeavors.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
A nice 2000 D/double die full steps
I see all the talk about the 1964sms just had to do it 😁
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Nice 1964 proof cent.
I agree, a very nice proof cent. It is bothersome, though, for the Mint not to announce why they were produced and how many were made. Surely, their is a record somewhere. Whereas the OP's coin is highly reflective and glossy, the SMS would be nonreflective and with a satin finish.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
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While not officially recognized by much of the numismatic community, 1964 proofs can be found with two different finishes, what I call 'satin' and 'brilliant'. Proofs of all denominations can be found with either finish, and based on my experience looking at well over 1000 1964 proof sets over the years, neither is rarer than the other.
Satin Finish: Surfaces are not mirrored, and show cartwheel luster instead. They exhibit all other proof characteristics for the era. Here's a True View of a PR69 RD example:
Brilliant Finish: Surfaces are mirrored. Here's a true view of a PR69 RD example:
Your coin is a satin finish proof. It's my belief that this finish is the cause of many erroneous assumptions that the coin in question is a rare 1964 SMS coin. I have had the opportunity to examine certified 1964 SMS coins displayed at major shows, and they do not resemble the satin proofs. Like others have said, there is only 1 possible source for the SMS coins, and all examples are well documented.
What do you guys think of this one had to go into my stash
Looks like a nice AU. This is one of 2.6 billion minted that year. Worth whatever melt for copper is or great for a Lincoln cent album.
- Bob -
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1985 ddo nickel
Any value?
Two questions:
Just wanted to show!
1941 wrong planchet
Sorry ddo not a good picture but all the letters are Doubled.Two pictures so if the first one if can't see it
If so any value in your opinion?
I just posted a thread yesterday about ddo ddr...check it out
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1087436/if-your-new-and-looking-for-ddo-ddr-double-die-errors#latest
Also, you should start a new thread for your inquiries, seems you've jumped into the middle of the OP's thread and its spinning off in another direction.
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@Williamstheman — MasonG means that you should use R , not O, in the description for doubling if you see doubling on the reverse of the coin.
What does “wrong planted” mean?
- Bob -
"Central Valley" Roosevelts
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Wrong planchet the corrected spelling
Ah!! Thank you.
What’s wrong with the planchet? It looks like a normal copper 1941 Lincoln.
- Bob -
"Central Valley" Roosevelts
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Bronze color weights 3.0
According to the weight tolerance guidelines, the 1941 cent can range between 2.98 to 3.24
The color of these also range in color.
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