Who pays to display a collection like Tyrant?

Zoins

One of the most amazing collections is the Tyrant Collection by Dan O'Dowd.

I've been amazed by this collection over the years.

• Top coins
• Incredible physical display
• Great website
• Multi TPG
• No pedigree on holders

Which brings me to a question. How much does it cost to display a collection like this, with security and all, and who pays for it? Does Dan have a team that moves these coins around and sets up displays for him? I can imagine that he can do it given that he runs a company that presumably sets up exhibits at trade shows.

Who ever does it, it's an incredible effort and much thanks for doing it!

Here are some photos over the years by forum members, with more of a focus on the display than the coins themselves.

Feb 2018 by @ThePennyLady:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/995363/charmys-february-2018-long-beach-coin-show-report-w-lots-of-pics

Jun 2018 by @TommyType:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1000776/invitation-your-stories-from-the-long-beach

Jan 2022 by @PCGS_SocialMedia:

https://www.pcgs.com/news/tyrant-collections-100-million-us-type-coins-exhibition

Feb 2022 by @Justacommeman:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13180518

MsMorrisine

Considering the cost to display and ship. Tyrant paid to display Tyrants collection.

LanceNewmanOCC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy2zB8bLSpk

Zoins

@MsMorrisine said:
Considering the cost to display and ship. Tyrant paid to display Tyrants collection.

That's what I was thinking, mostly because there are no other displays like this.

This is really an expression of the collector. I wonder how much Dan was involved in designing the display. It's a really incredible contribution to the hobby.

MsMorrisine

And if Tyrant is reading this ::

Book #2 is out of stock. I’ll pay full retail if a second printing is performed.

Zoins

@MsMorrisine said:
And if Tyrant is reading this ::

Book #2 is out of stock. I’ll pay full retail if a second printing is performed.

Fingers crossed!

Zoins

So, Dan does have a custom PCGS insert which I missed before.

This seems a step a above other inserts in that it has a custom colored logo.

LanceNewmanOCC

@Zoins said:
So, Dan does have a custom PCGS insert which I missed before.

This seems a step a above other inserts in that it has a custom colored logo.

hmm. i thought most of the coins were like that but i admit that once i started watching that JD presentation video, the last thing on my mind was labels and for some reason the #%$! thing is private now.

BUT i make this post to, perhaps, encourage/inspire a future thread by you: elite collections, elite labels?

Zoins

@LanceNewmanOCC said:

@Zoins said:
So, Dan does have a custom PCGS insert which I missed before.

This seems a step a above other inserts in that it has a custom colored logo.

hmm. i thought most of the coins were like that but i admit that once i started watching that JD presentation video, the last thing on my mind was labels and for some reason the damn thing is private now.

BUT i make this post to, perhaps, encourage/inspire a future thread by you: elite collections, elite labels?

It could be interesting but I'm not sure it's necessary as there are only a few from what I've seen, like Pogue, Simpson, Hanson, etc. but Tyrant is a level above.

LanceNewmanOCC

@Zoins said:
It could be interesting but I'm not sure it's necessary as there are only a few from what I've seen, like Pogue, Simpson, Hanson, etc. but Tyrant is a level above.

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would a poll be too inflamatory besides possibly being unnecessary?

oh btw, did you choose the 420 one for a specific reason.

tradedollarnut

It’s a give and take. Once there was a $20k display cost for private reception and public display and we worked out a deal that I’d commit to $20k in grading fees. Win- win.

Zoins

@LanceNewmanOCC said:

@Zoins said:
It could be interesting but I'm not sure it's necessary as there are only a few from what I've seen, like Pogue, Simpson, Hanson, etc. but Tyrant is a level above.

would a poll be too inflamatory besides possibly being unnecessary?

Go ahead and start one!

oh btw, did you choose the 420 one for a specific reason.

A group of us are meeting to look at coins on April 20 at 4:20pm. Want to join?

Zoins

@tradedollarnut said:
It’s a give and take. Once there was a $20k display cost for private reception and public display and we worked out a deal that I’d commit to $20k in grading fees. Win- win.

Good to know. That makes a lot of sense as these collections are a big draw for the shows. Thanks

LanceNewmanOCC

@Zoins said:

oh btw, did you choose the 420 one for a specific reason.

A group of us are meeting to look at coins on April 20 at 4:20pm. Want to join?

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well, i showed up but realized it was march 20. a month early. don't i feel the fool..

Smudge

Anyone who can afford that collection could afford to display it. You don’t buy a Rolls Royce and worry about fuel prices. Seriously I suspect it is split up. It is certainly a major draw to a large show or event, like a museum within the show.

Zoins

@Smudge said:
Anyone who can afford that collection could afford to display it. You don’t buy a Rolls Royce and worry about fuel prices. Seriously I suspect it is split up. It is certainly a major draw to a large show or event, like a museum within the show.

Money is one part of it, but the other part, is who actually does the work to create the displays and move them around.

There's a company called Numismatic Marketing, LLC run by Lianna Spurrier and Andy Jeffrey that does some related activity but they don't mention displays.

Here's some of their info:

PARTNERSHIP
Though a young company, Numismatic Marketing has worked with several of the industry’s household names, in the coin collecting realm at least. One of our first such clients was David Lawrence Rare Coins (DLRC); we have worked with them since our early days, and they have been instrumental in making Numismatic Marketing a success. The more we worked together, the more we wanted to work together. Not only was Numismatic Marketing providing DLRC with a valuable service, but DLRC is also directly invested in the second part of our mission: outreach to the present and future community of collectors. So in 2020, DLRC became a partner in Numismatic Marketing.

We acknowledge that this may appear to create a conflict of interest for other potential clients of Numismatic Marketing, especially other coin dealers. However, please know we keep your information confidential. DLRC is no more involved in our creative work than we are in their day-to-day operations. If this relationship is a sticking point in your decision to work with us, please don’t hesitate to reach out to us. We would love to talk to you about your concerns; we’re pretty sure we can alleviate them.