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What do you think this 1905 coin would grade as?


Sorry my photos aren’t the best. There is a dent on the shield.

Do you think this would grade as vf or vf details from what you can see?

If it graded as a vf then it’s a 1500 coin. If it graded as a vf details it is an 800 dollar coin. This is the straight serif on 1 variety. Thanks for looking.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The sharpness grade is VF, but the black silver corrosion on the reverse could be a problem.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    The sharpness grade is VF, but the black silver corrosion on the reverse could be a problem.

    It could be. Although I have a 1912 peso that has that black stuff and it graded a 25 (not a details grade)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say it is a VF coin... likely 25.... Let us know what it gets if you submit it. Cheers, RickO

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF-30 details.

  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I would say it is a VF coin... likely 25.... Let us know what it gets if you submit it. Cheers, RickO

    Will do!

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF30 is my guess. Not sure if it will straight grade or not. Both major grading services have excellent conservation services. They can evaluate your coin and advise you as to whether it can be improved through conservation.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You also have a punch mark on each side, one to the left of Ms. Liberty's stomach and other one toward the bottom of the shield. Those could become of factor if the grader sees them.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • kruegerkrueger Posts: 856 ✭✭✭
    edited March 9, 2022 6:32PM

    Black stuff quite probably of sea salvage origin from manila bay American forces dumping to hide from Japanese just before corregidor fell to the japanese. Pesos moved there from philippine treasury as Japanese closed in.
    Many many recovered pesos have this very light to complete black corrosion on them. Most recovered pesos have some sort of cleaning done to them and are sold as "sea salvaged."others sneek past that title if corrosion is less aggregious.

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see two punch marks (as @BillJones describes them) on the obverse and the dent on the shield that you noted. I see it as a details coin.

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