1916/1916 buffalo nickel slabbed as a good-04. Take a look and tell me if you agree!
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Does this coin merit a full good grade? Me thinks not!!
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I can’t see the date
Well I guess maybe the graders must have been able to see it! Just in case someone looking at this does not know this date
can be verified by the doubled ribbon ties which are obvious on this specimen. Many years ago I purchased an anacs
slabbed specimen of this variety and when it arrived I was shocked to be looking at a dateless buffalo nickel! And when
I called ANACS to complain they told me about the ribbon tie doubling. And so having obtained this information I returned the coin because I wanted to at least see a bit of the date.
This coin carries a value of $5250 in the pcgs price guide and to me this would be worth about half of that with no wisp of a
date visible. Maybe If you tilt the coin a bit you can see some vague trace of a date but no where near enough to get a
good-04 IMO.
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I go by the doubling in the feather but it's easy to identify even if the date is gone.
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I can see small segments of the six but I the dbl feather is key. I like it. Peace Roy
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Even though you can tell it’s the doubled die, I feel it should have some part of the date to merit a G4 and I would pass unless the price was discounted. It’s the price these command and it keeps going up. Checking eBay, every one listed is priced over PCGS price guide and way over gray sheet.
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NO. Too much of the date is gone.
Although easily identified without the date, it is not a coin I would buy.... Just personal preference to be able to see the date, even if worn a lot. Cheers, RickO
No cause of the date. I do like the rest of it
This is a really weak example of the D/D IMO. would pass on this one.
I still hate those prongs. They just ruin the presentation of the coin. And I think the coin is a low-end AG3 at best.
The reverse looks G-4
The obverse AG-3
Check the PCGS Photograde images. Too much wear on the obverse for a G-4.
Pete
I would pass on this one also, regardless of the doubled feather and possible doubled ribbon ties, but the tops of the date numbers would make me stop. They don't seem to fit, to me. And I am most certainly not a specialist in this area. It just does not look like a sizeable investment I would make for such a wanted coin.
Jim
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Actually the ngc holder could be improved by only using three prongs, which is all you really need, certainly not 4.
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And making the prongs clear instead of white.
GD4 is a fair grade.
peacockcoins
+1
i can see why it landed in a g4 holder after looking at photograde for split-grading. a lot of the other details are in the 4 range. i think the date area was just worn unevenly and in cases like thie, nuance comes into play.
that said, netting it to a 3 due to scratches (even if old) and rim dings would have been fair as well.
I am going to have to find my Buff stash.
I too would pass on this coin but greatly appreciate the diagnostics in identifying it.
Wayne
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I would expect to see more than a doubled feather for 5 grand but that's just me. I mean, the date's the thing not the feather.
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put some acid on that date
With respect to the doubled feather, I don’t see the point of paying a premium for a dateless doubled date coin
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I recently did just that on a few dateless Buffs. Voila! My first 1913-S Type 2. Looks pretty durn good if you ask me and I could make the OP coin look really good too by making the date magically appear so that all viewers could see the dramatic overdate.
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while i can appreciate that perspective, that isn't a doubled date coin, it is a doubled die coin. the date is really just the most aesthetic part of the coin/die being it is the furthest rotated from the pivot point. fwiw.
The old adage of "buy the coin, not the grade" comes to mind. Cool to see the variety recognized, but someone looking to obtain the variety should pass on any coin that does not readily display it.
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I like to see at least half the date to get full G4. Photograde shows a full date in their G4 example.
I looked at past auctions for the 16 DD in PCGS G4 and could only find 2 with photos - one had about half the date visible, and the other was only 1/4 visible, but still better than the OP coin.
Even though mine is detail graded, I’m happy that I have a full date (and horn) that cost a little over good money.
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it almost appears like a clipped planchet down from the date. even the reverse wear to that corresponding area is more than the rest of the rev. perhaps tapered?
Vetter's Buffalo nickel is the wiser choice, in my opinion. Lots of detail, and honestly, the "problem" isn't too distracting.
peacockcoins
So this one just popped up on eBay. PCGS PO1. The pictures are not the best, but beside no date compared to the OP G4. I don’t see that much difference. Still a good bit of money for it.
https://ebay.com/itm/125186823852?hash=item1d25b756ac:g:F~YAAOSw~J5iJjGW
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Here is the pic of the 1916 doubled die, PO01, that Vetter posted above, and also another one grading FA02
both being offered up in ebay
Hard to tell which one is really better, the fair asking price is $2750 while the poor is only $2500. Lotta cabbage
for coins like that
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