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1945 D Jefferson Nickel RPM FS501 re-punched mint mark

Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

When I variety hunt or attribute I look for die markers or diagnostics to verify and confirm. Some varieties have little to no diagnostic marks published, so finding them can be a challenge at times, particularly with various die stages. Luckily PCGS CoinFacts has phenomenal photos that usually help. Variety Vista sometimes write out or has close ups of some markers/diagnostics.

Here is a 1945 D silver Jefferson with RPM FS501. Die markers include a diagonal die crack NW/SW at the top of Tom’s head, several die polish lines on the reverse and the mint Mark itself. This is a hard to locate variety in the Jefferson series

Die crack

Die polish lines around mint Mark and below S


Die marks around D and ghost outline for D to the right of D, including the tail from lower right of D



Comments

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice pictures ++++

  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice, I used to always hunt for war nickel RPMs and that is one I never found.

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice die crack and die lines.
    Jim


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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tried to use diagnostics a while ago and ended up with a bunch of coins that weren’t the variety. It taught me to rely solely on the doubling or design difference. Example would be Accented Hair halves. Many use the broken rays reverse as a diagnostic and forget that there is a pairing of that die with a normal obverse. If you can use diagnostics successfully, awesome! I got burned when I tried though :smiley: Also a lot of varieties don’t have diagnostics like the 1913 T1 FS1802. Either way, thanks for the info and keep these posts coming!

    Coin Photographer.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco .... Excellent pictures and diagnostic identification. Cheers, RickO

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You Rock Rocco!

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really nice pictures to accent a very nice rpm variety.
    Thanks for sharing.
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This hits home for me, as I have sought the Type 1 FS802 for a few years. I found an ms66 once for someone else, but haven’t picked one for me yet. I will share the only marker/diagnostic I have found for this variety. Again it’s a very specific die crack in mid-late die stages. An additional possible die gouge or my imagination is on the left edge of the “I” directly east of the lower horizontal part of the “F”

    @FlyingAl said:
    I tried to use diagnostics a while ago and ended up with a bunch of coins that weren’t the variety. It taught me to rely solely on the doubling or design difference. Example would be Accented Hair halves. Many use the broken rays reverse as a diagnostic and forget that there is a pairing of that die with a normal obverse. If you can use diagnostics successfully, awesome! I got burned when I tried though :smiley: Also a lot of varieties don’t have diagnostics like the 1913 T1 FS1802. Either way, thanks for the info and keep these posts coming!






  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco Careful with that. There is a look-alike die for this one that has nearly the same die crack, and it would be an easy mistake. I noticed that crack early in my hunt, found a 1913 with it, and it was a bust. I have since found 2 coins of this variety, the only true diagnostic is a minor die clash (under UNUM) on late die stages. This has to match EXACTLY and I would not recommend going after it with only the diagnostic. I have had one of the coins graded, it had come with residue and when it was conserved (ATS) ended up in a details holder. Oh well. If you want to see high quality images of this one, its the plate for Variety Plus ATS. It is also a very early die state, so no die crack at FIVE. The second coin does have the crack, but in hand it is so light you would never notice it unless you really looked for it, and still might miss it. Hope this helps!

    Die Clash

    1913 FS-1802 (Sorry for the bad phone pics I really need to get around to imaging this one :wink:


    Coin Photographer.

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