Most expensive coin in a “Details” holder?
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What do you think the most expensive coin currently in a “details” holder is? 1794 dollar? Pioneer Gold?
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A contender, were it to be holdered:
--Severian the Lame
The 1870-S $3 gold coin is unique and has obvious graffiti. It got a straight grade but it should have gotten a details grade.
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I just did a quick search on HA. This one if not the highest price it should be on the top 10. Sold on Mar 26, 2021 for: $324,000.
The next one is this China coin. Sold on Dec 18, 2020 for: $240,000.
Oh, Sorry, I only search for world coin not US coin. No, I took it back. It is includes US in all rare coins in all past sales.
The 1849 Double Eagle if it were to be graded would likely be details graded for cleaning.
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Not certain at what we are looking.
Some more information please.
Did I find this fact interesting as, indeed, PCGS didn't holder a coin as problem-free that has graffiti? I did a bit of digging:
This, from a previous auction description:
As for condition, the coin exhibits detail consistent with a grade of Extremely Fine. Many observers point to its "pebbled" appearance as evidence of it being used in jewelry. The Harry Bass Jr. Foundation's website describes the obverse and reverse:
"Obverse:
Die scratch from denticle above O(F) to (O)F. They reused for Proofs of 1874 and 1875. Very lightly rubbed; tops only of J.B.L. visible, a portion of the front of headdress missing (distinctive). No 'Ghosting.'
Reverse:
Open 3. Date shallow, barely above ribbon loop; level relative to DOLLARS. All characters are firmly punched and distinct. Left interior leaf opposite date is a thin, broken remnant with a minuscule base at the junction with wreath leaf below. The right interior leaf is thin. Lower one-third of left bow loop and center space filled. Right loop clear with but a stub of vertical ribbon element within, and none projecting into the field from the top of the right loop."
It is currently located in the second finest three-dollar gold PCGS registry:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/3-gold-major-sets/3-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1854-1889/alltimeset/21697
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Ditto regarding graffiti for the Dexter 1804 PCGS PF65.
https://www.hunley.org/artifacts/
--Severian the Lame
This was the poster child for when NGC started detail grading. I crossed it to PCGS, later sold it for $400k. It's a likely contender.
Wow!
Disregard
Perhaps, in the world of registry set rankings, your set is 100% complete that includes a unique coin, you should hold the top spot.
1795 1c s-79 i viewed in a ngc details holder at the time sold for around $450k that later made its way into a problem-free pcgs holder i ended up seeing i think in the hansen thread so not sure what the value is up to now but it did take, as it should have, a couple at least grading points hit on the cross.
Obviously, a 'details' grade does not condemn a coins value if scarcity or history accompanies it. Cheers, RickO
Very interesting. Thank you.
As far as I understand, the 1870-S $3 has never been slabbed and is still raw in the Bass collection.
If it were to be slabbed it seems it should be in a details grade holder and might be the most expensive details coin.
There are some rarities that have gotten a pass before when a details description seemed more fitting.
Here is one of those:
1794 No Stars Flowing Hair Dollar in Copper Unique Judd-18 Pattern auctioned for $840,000 in April 2021.
It is straight graded VF-25 by PCGS but is described in the lot as "...The coin is corroded, with areas of significant roughness at the upper obverse and along the left side of the reverse. ...There are small pinscratches, rim dings, and other marks throughout..."
https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/1794-dt-1-dollar-judd-18-pollock-27-unique-vf25-pcgs-pcgs-11049-/a/1329-4190.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
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This $20 Gold piece was recovered from the CSS Hunley, which was the first submarine to sink a ship in war. The girl friend of the captain of the Hunley, George Dixon, gave this piece to him before he fought in the Battle of Shiloh. He was shot in the leg, but the gold prevented the bullet from entering his skin. He still walked with a limp.
The story was a legend until the the Hunley was raised. While working the wreck, the coin was found with the engraving on it:
Shiloh
April 6, 1862
My Life Preserver
G E D
Now the gold coin, which once was only a legend, is now on display for the visitors of the museum to see. It is insured for $8 million.
You can buy a decent looking copy of this piece in the museum giftshop.