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1917 buffalo nickel for sale on ebay right now, comments please!

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2022 6:42PM

    The date definitely looks wrong. The coin looks off to me.

    for comparison

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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks counterfeit, mushy details and wrong date.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    is that the slanted 17 variety?

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But WHY? What is the gain/value of counterfeiting a 5 dollar coin? Can you imagine the discussions amongst the Chinese counterfeiters about what to copy? It’s actually amusing entertainment at times!

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2windy2fish said:
    But WHY? What is the gain/value of counterfeiting a 5 dollar coin? Can you imagine the discussions amongst the Chinese counterfeiters about what to copy? It’s actually amusing entertainment at times!

    .
    did you see the thread with the statehood quarter and lincoln cent made in plastic? with COPY on them?

    years ago, on this forum, people posted a few items from alibaba and/or similar sites of memorial common date cents flat-out counterfeited. there are some places where a few american equivalent dollars goes pretty far and as the have and have-nots gap grows and grows, even smaller amounts will go further. although to emphasize your final point, i do wonder if some are doing JUST to undermine the system. chaos for the sake of chaos. a lot of people live in some BFE & FUBAR places.

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  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Indeed Lance! It is rather amusing at this point to find the lowest value fake…But you are spot on, a few US pennies go a long way in destitute countries…. we all need to remember that….For most of us experienced collectors the copies are laughable BUT with the huge inrush of novice collectors the coins look fine….that is why it is so important for us to educate the newbies as much as we can as painful as it can be….because we all want/need the novices to have fun and grow our hobby!!!

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2windy2fish said:

    that is why it is so important for us to educate the newbies as much as we can as painful as it can be….because we all want/need the novices to have fun and grow our hobby!!!
    .
    kudos!

    i do find it more difficult than some here to educate the newcomers, mostly because i really just am not good at deciphering whom is a troll and whom is just not educated. so i make it a point to do my best to stay out of those threads and when i don't, i usually regret it, which in-turn, reinforces why i stay away. :D

    in-person is VERY different.

    i forgot to say, nice pics in the OP. :)

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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Comments?
    The coin looks sketchy…. And,
    That date looks like CRAP!

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least they spelled the words right……

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    is that the slanted 17 variety?

    At first when I looked at the date I thought I may have run into a new unreported variety. To me the rest of the coin does
    not look that bad. But shortly thereafter, about 10 seconds or so I think, I realized I was looking at a counterfeit or as some like to say a "false piece". Whatever the case, these seem to be rare as I have never run across one before. This one can be had for over a hundred bucks on ebay right now, do not think the owner has a fake.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly a fake Buff.... the 7, the surfaces, mushy design.... Cheers, RickO

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with @BUFFNIXX , the date is the tell, the rest of it doesn’t look that bad. There are plenty of real Buffalo nickels with mushy details!
    Once they dial in the date it would fool a lot of folks.
    Now if they added D or S, it would command more scrutiny at this grade level.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    is that the slanted 17 variety?

    NO. That's the real thing. All the non-slanted coins are the variety.

    Pete

    What were they thinking?

    Pete

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,882 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not buy it.
    I have never seen a slanted 1917 Buffalo and probably will not.
    Anyone notify the seller or have a link to it?
    Wayne

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That fake is so bad its funny as hell :D:D

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WAYNEAS said:
    I would not buy it.
    I have never seen a slanted 1917 Buffalo and probably will not.
    Anyone notify the seller or have a link to it?
    Wayne

    If you want to see the coin in eBay it is auction number 265266924288 just copy and paste this number into the
    search line in eBay and you will be taken right to the auction where you will be assured that.....

    1917 BUFFALO NICKEL UNC / MS NATURAL TONING , EXCELLENT DETAILS ,5C KEY DATE
    Pictured Item above is the one you will receive.
    Please Determine condition of the item by pictures provided.

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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2022 7:57AM

    Although it might be the "1917 Small Date" discovery piece! :*

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2022 8:35AM

    Interesting fake! Looking at the image you posted I see several “details” that seem to me like a dead giveaway.
    The Eye of the bison is too big, the rotated upside down C on the fore head is convex instead of concave,
    All the facial details on obverse are smoothed, less defined, and missing wrinkles noticeably around the eye and cheek/mouth. The F below the 17 looks engraved by Edvard Munch, the 17 is wrong, the bison’s head is beyond the rim. And then the rim looks literally rounded (like a bullnose countertop edge) as though standing on its edge would be impossible.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s not a proof😜

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BUFFNIXX said:

    I hope you reported it. If you had posted a link I’d do it my damnself.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,489 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the response I received from the seller today:

    "Hi, interesting, can you provide as a proof of your words the detailed info, why you think it is not a real????
    Because I bought it from certified coin dealer, and I sell very long time, and know a lot about coins, and didn't see any sign that this coin can be not a real . Please provide details . Because the weight and diameter and details all as it should be. thanks. Mike."

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rampage said:
    Here is the response I received from the seller today:

    "Hi, interesting, can you provide as a proof of your words the detailed info, why you think it is not a real????
    Because I bought it from certified coin dealer, and I sell very long time, and know a lot about coins, and didn't see any sign that this coin can be not a real . Please provide details . Because the weight and diameter and details all as it should be. thanks. Mike."

    "I sell very long time". HMMM

    "why you think it is not a real????" HMMM.

    Well.................I KNOWA IT IS NOT A REAL.

    There's "knowa" other 1917 Nickel with a date like that.

    Please find another and we can talk.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hilarious

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 19, 2022 9:32AM

    @crazyhounddog said:
    It’s not a proof😜

    OMG! then maybe it IS one of the lost matte proofs!

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @crazyhounddog said:
    It’s not a proof😜

    There's a lot of things it isn't.

    I'm still trying to figure out what it IS.

    Pete

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