Some of these original coins aren’t the most attractively toned but I like the contrast on the reverse of this one:
One of the issues that I have with some of the high grade pieces that the TPGs and CAC like is with the amount of haze that is on the surfaces of the coin from the celluloid sleeves that the mint used to ship the coins. When it gets really thick, it obscures the Proof mirrors and impairs the eye appeal in my opinion. I know that the haze is the hallmark of originality, but too much of it is not attractive. I avoid those coins.
@FlyingAl said: @BillJones Agreed. The coin I had posted is in an old soapbox ANACS 65. I am really not a fan of the obverse haze but with it having a fairly attractive reverse I went for it, partly because it fit in my budget and 1938 quarters are really hard to find with somewhat good detail in my experience. This goes against one of the main pieces of advice I could receive but I think that it goes well with the rest of the set and is a solid 65. I do however, take issue with some of the coins graded 68 by the TPGs that have a lot of haze that dulls the mirrors. I think that should maxed out at 66, but I don’t get to set the standards lol.
I strongly prefer the hazy look, and will not even consider a white (dipped) example. The originality of the haze and iridescence adds character, and coins with this look are only becoming more scarce as examples succumb to acetone baths. Based on this thread and others, I am evidently in the minority, and happily so as there is less competition with which to contend. The mirrored qualities are plenty evident under direct light, so these types of coins have the best of both worlds IMHO. Here are three from my Proof Walker CAC set.
This one is my avatar. I'm sure some people might be put off by the terminal toning on the reverse even though I see luster shining through in hand. I however really love this dime. It has a dark side of the moon look.
I'm hoping to get a 1940 and 1942 proof dime as well. I'm holding out for at least one of those to be blast white to offset the one posted above.
This is one of the nicest 1936 Satins I've seen. I seem to faintly recall you saying a 1936 Satin 5c that you sold upgraded to a 68, was this it or is my memory faulty?
This is one of the nicest 1936 Satins I've seen. I seem to faintly recall you saying a 1936 Satin 5c that you sold upgraded to a 68, was this it or is my memory faulty?
It looks like you took your time to assemble a matched, original, set of proofs. Not many people have the dedication to do that! I really like the look you went for, I can't believe more collectors don't like it.
Here’s my 1936 Proof Set:
1. Satin - PR65+RD w/CAC:
2. Brilliant PR66RD w/CAC:
3. Satin - PR67+ w/CAC:
4. Brilliant - PR67+ w/CAC. Any “distractions” you see are only in the photos, not on the coins themselves. Probably among the first coins struck from newly polished dies:
5.
6. PR66 w/CAC:
7. PR66 w/CAC:
Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!
A short while ago, a Registered Mail parcel arrived containing this 1936 PR64 CAC. I still need the ‘37 to complete the seven coin run, but it always feels like a big accomplishment to acquire the key date in any set. Even better, the coin was not for sale—I was admiring the TrueViews in CoinFacts and came across this example in my target grade, with the “look” I was seeking, and reached out cold through the messaging function in the Registry App. Fortuitously, the owner was receptive to an offer and (after some back-and-forth) we agreed to terms. The addition of the heavier-weighted ‘36 bumped my PCGS CAC registry set from #15 to #12. Just a matter of time and finding the right ‘37 now!
1936 Brilliant Proof Cent (Mine is not a photogenic coin)
1936 satin finish nickel
1936 Brilliant Proof nickel
1936 Proof dime
1936 Proof quarter
1936 Proof half dollar
A 1936 Proof Peace Dollar would have been very interesting, but it was not to be.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@P0CKETCHANGE said:
A short while ago, a Registered Mail parcel arrived containing this 1936 PR64 CAC. I still need the ‘37 to complete the seven coin run, but it always feels like a big accomplishment to acquire the key date in any set. Even better, the coin was not for sale—I was admiring the TrueViews in CoinFacts and came across this example in my target grade, with the “look” I was seeking, and reached out cold through the messaging function in the Registry App. Fortuitously, the owner was receptive to an offer and (after some back-and-forth) we agreed to terms. The addition of the heavier-weighted ‘36 bumped my PCGS CAC registry set from #15 to #12. Just a matter of time and finding the right ‘37 now!
It's been a while since I re-read that thread, but I assume there's still some very interesting info that should give some nice history to your proof .
It's been a while since I re-read that thread, but I assume there's still some very interesting info that should give some nice history to your proof .
Thanks for linking to your write up. Interesting! I didn’t know there was a major difference in the quality of 1936 examples. With my newly acquired knowledge, I agree that it’s almost certainly a late 1936 strike, as the mirrors are quite reflective and watery. I did order Roger Burdette’s book recently and am looking forward to digging into it.
It's been a while since I re-read that thread, but I assume there's still some very interesting info that should give some nice history to your proof .
Thanks for linking to your write up. Interesting! I didn’t know there was a major difference in the quality of 1936 examples. With my newly acquired knowledge, I agree that it’s almost certainly a late 1936 strike, as the mirrors are quite reflective and watery. I did order Roger Burdette’s book recently and am looking forward to digging into it.
There are satin and brilliant finish 1936 cents and nickels as you can see from the post of my 1936 set above. Some believe there are Mercury Dimes with both finishes as well. I saw one four or five years ago, but it may been dull from too much dipping.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
It's been a while since I re-read that thread, but I assume there's still some very interesting info that should give some nice history to your proof .
Thanks for linking to your write up. Interesting! I didn’t know there was a major difference in the quality of 1936 examples. With my newly acquired knowledge, I agree that it’s almost certainly a late 1936 strike, as the mirrors are quite reflective and watery. I did order Roger Burdette’s book recently and am looking forward to digging into it.
There are satin and brilliant finish 1936 cents and nickels as you can see from the post of my 1936 set above. Some believe there are Mercury Dimes with both finishes as well. I saw one four or five years ago, but it may been dull from too much dipping.
There are no Satin proof dimes. There are dimes that had dull surfaces due to the planchets not being polished and the dies being worn, but they are not Satin proofs. To produce a Satin proof, the mint took regular circulation die pair and put it in a medal press, where it struck polished planchets. The extra pressure and handling produced a distinct finish.
The so called "Satin proof dimes" were made in a process nothing like the true Satin proofs. They were just struck by worn dies in a less than optimal way.
i've never been a fan of collecting anything that was meant to be collected (proofs being an example), but these early cameo proofs always draw my attention. I wish I had one.
i've never been a fan of collecting anything that was meant to be collected (proofs being an example), but these early cameo proofs always draw my attention. I wish I had one.
Cameo Proofs from that era are nice, but I won't pay the price for them. Here's as close as I have gotten to one.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@P0CKETCHANGE said:
A short while ago, a Registered Mail parcel arrived containing this 1936 PR64 CAC. I still need the ‘37 to complete the seven coin run, but it always feels like a big accomplishment to acquire the key date in any set. Even better, the coin was not for sale—I was admiring the TrueViews in CoinFacts and came across this example in my target grade, with the “look” I was seeking, and reached out cold through the messaging function in the Registry App. Fortuitously, the owner was receptive to an offer and (after some back-and-forth) we agreed to terms. The addition of the heavier-weighted ‘36 bumped my PCGS CAC registry set from #15 to #12. Just a matter of time and finding the right ‘37 now!
What is the registry app? I have several coins with cert numbers in type sets I want to make offers on but no idea who the owners are.
@Shamika said:
i've never been a fan of collecting anything that was meant to be collected (proofs being an example), but these early cameo proofs always draw my attention. I wish I had one.
Interesting perspective
I think you just ruined 80% of my collection if my thinking changes from reading this.
This seems like another worthy older thread to resurrect—some incredible coins on these pages. Here's one I didn't share in my earlier posts. Photos by OP.
Wow, thanks for the bump @P0CKETCHANGE. What a blast from the past - I can actually remember the day that I started this thread. My, how much my life has changed since that day....
And my collection has grown as well. Here is every single 1936-42 Proof that I currently own and have current images of:
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It's been a while since I've seen them all out like that in one place. The younger me would be incredibly proud of the sets I've done. This is the stuff of dreams.
Comments
PR66 CAC
chopmarkedtradedollars.com
PR67+
PR67
PR67+
PR67+
Here is my Washington Quarter Variety Registry Set
This is my Washington Quarter Proof Variety Registry Set
My 1936 is with our hosts for a reholder and true view right now
I just got these five photos back from @messydesk (John). At FUN, he'll be shooting my 1936, 1937, and 1938 Proof Nickels.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Here's my 41 half from fully detailed dies.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Attempting to put together a set of similar grades and surfaces for my Proof Walkers. Here are a couple examples of my beginning efforts
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
I strongly prefer the hazy look, and will not even consider a white (dipped) example. The originality of the haze and iridescence adds character, and coins with this look are only becoming more scarce as examples succumb to acetone baths. Based on this thread and others, I am evidently in the minority, and happily so as there is less competition with which to contend. The mirrored qualities are plenty evident under direct light, so these types of coins have the best of both worlds IMHO. Here are three from my Proof Walker CAC set.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
This one is my avatar. I'm sure some people might be put off by the terminal toning on the reverse even though I see luster shining through in hand. I however really love this dime. It has a dark side of the moon look.
I'm hoping to get a 1940 and 1942 proof dime as well. I'm holding out for at least one of those to be blast white to offset the one posted above.
Wow, this nickel stopped me in my tracks. Beautiful.
Nice proofs!
Previously owned Satin PR67
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
This is one of the nicest 1936 Satins I've seen. I seem to faintly recall you saying a 1936 Satin 5c that you sold upgraded to a 68, was this it or is my memory faulty?
Coin Photographer.
Yes, this is the one. I think it is 68+ now.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
My 1936 and 1937 PR Buffs, all 67+
Buffs are great toners.
OINK
My set of Lincoln proofs 1936-1942. Difficult to find toned ones in high grades.
OINK
My set of 1938 to 1942 Jefferson proofs. I hope you like the toning........
OINK
@OldIndianNutKase
It looks like you took your time to assemble a matched, original, set of proofs. Not many people have the dedication to do that! I really like the look you went for, I can't believe more collectors don't like it.
Coin Photographer.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/proof-sets/1936-1942-proof-set/album/196911
For some reason the registry page is having trouble loading trueviews right now. Every coin should have an image in the album.
Collector, occasional seller
@OldIndianNutKase Totally mind-blowingly superb! Those are all outrageous! Well done Buddy.
Here’s my 1936 Proof Set:
1. Satin - PR65+RD w/CAC:
2. Brilliant PR66RD w/CAC:
3. Satin - PR67+ w/CAC:
4. Brilliant - PR67+ w/CAC. Any “distractions” you see are only in the photos, not on the coins themselves. Probably among the first coins struck from newly polished dies:
5.
6. PR66 w/CAC:
7. PR66 w/CAC:
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
A short while ago, a Registered Mail parcel arrived containing this 1936 PR64 CAC. I still need the ‘37 to complete the seven coin run, but it always feels like a big accomplishment to acquire the key date in any set. Even better, the coin was not for sale—I was admiring the TrueViews in CoinFacts and came across this example in my target grade, with the “look” I was seeking, and reached out cold through the messaging function in the Registry App. Fortuitously, the owner was receptive to an offer and (after some back-and-forth) we agreed to terms. The addition of the heavier-weighted ‘36 bumped my PCGS CAC registry set from #15 to #12. Just a matter of time and finding the right ‘37 now!
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
1936 Proof Set
1936 Satin Proof Cent
1936 Brilliant Proof Cent (Mine is not a photogenic coin)
1936 satin finish nickel
1936 Brilliant Proof nickel
1936 Proof dime
1936 Proof quarter
1936 Proof half dollar
A 1936 Proof Peace Dollar would have been very interesting, but it was not to be.
My toned set is a 1941.
My highest graded set is 1940.
Very nice proof! This coin was almost certainly struck late in 1936, after the Satin Proof cents and nickels transitioned to Brilliant finishes. This old thread may be interesting for you:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1075216/discussion-regarding-the-cause-of-over-polishing-on-1936-1942-proofs-particularly-1936#latest
It's been a while since I re-read that thread, but I assume there's still some very interesting info that should give some nice history to your proof
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Coin Photographer.
Thanks for linking to your write up. Interesting! I didn’t know there was a major difference in the quality of 1936 examples. With my newly acquired knowledge, I agree that it’s almost certainly a late 1936 strike, as the mirrors are quite reflective and watery. I did order Roger Burdette’s book recently and am looking forward to digging into it.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
There are satin and brilliant finish 1936 cents and nickels as you can see from the post of my 1936 set above. Some believe there are Mercury Dimes with both finishes as well. I saw one four or five years ago, but it may been dull from too much dipping.
There are no Satin proof dimes. There are dimes that had dull surfaces due to the planchets not being polished and the dies being worn, but they are not Satin proofs. To produce a Satin proof, the mint took regular circulation die pair and put it in a medal press, where it struck polished planchets. The extra pressure and handling produced a distinct finish.
The so called "Satin proof dimes" were made in a process nothing like the true Satin proofs. They were just struck by worn dies in a less than optimal way.
Coin Photographer.
i've never been a fan of collecting anything that was meant to be collected (proofs being an example), but these early cameo proofs always draw my attention. I wish I had one.
Pr67 1941
Cameo Proofs from that era are nice, but I won't pay the price for them. Here's as close as I have gotten to one.
Oh wait.....this thread calls for proof coins, not prooflike business strikes! Oops, my goof!
So here's proof coin, a recent addition........ not much differences between the coins, eh?
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
What is the registry app? I have several coins with cert numbers in type sets I want to make offers on but no idea who the owners are.
Interesting perspective
I think you just ruined 80% of my collection if my thinking changes from reading this.
This seems like another worthy older thread to resurrect—some incredible coins on these pages. Here's one I didn't share in my earlier posts. Photos by OP.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
A couple of nice proof Buffaloes.
I have a couple of coins to share. The first I purchased from keets (
) back in 2020. I think it's particularly pretty. It's PR67 CAC.
And this second I just won in a GreatCollections auction. I think the TrueView is not great but it's what I have. This coin is also PR67.
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Wow, thanks for the bump @P0CKETCHANGE. What a blast from the past - I can actually remember the day that I started this thread. My, how much my life has changed since that day....
And my collection has grown as well. Here is every single 1936-42 Proof that I currently own and have current images of:
.
.
It's been a while since I've seen them all out like that in one place. The younger me would be incredibly proud of the sets I've done. This is the stuff of dreams.
Coin Photographer.
This thread also happens to show the evolution of my photography - very interesting for me to see.
Coin Photographer.
Here's a family shot. I've since replaced the 1936 nickel and added a pcgs graded 1940 set.
@Farmer_Bill very cool in the old capitals
Nothing is as expensive as free money.