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Is this a 1964 SMS? New to this, so no idea.. links to images are below

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. It is not. They cannot be found in the wild. All known examples came from one source.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Remidy_Jade.... Welcome aboard. Definitely not an SMS. Cheers, RickO

  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No its NOT a SMS but let me help you with some research.
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    https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1964-1c-sms-rd/3284

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  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NO.

  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    No. It is not. They cannot be found in the wild. All known examples came from one source.

    I thought that was recently disputed. Wasn’t a set recently graded and found to have a separate source?

  • I'd like to break the news to you folks that I am the one that has all 48 SMS Lincoln cents and all are still like they was when they come off the mat come out of the met

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey @DeplorableDan we are going to need another delivery of popcorn!

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  • I'm trying to put some pictures on there

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,222 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee said:
    I'd like to break the news to you folks that I am the one that has all 48 SMS Lincoln cents and all are still like they was when they come off the mat come out of the met

    Now you have Mr. Mets attention!

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee said:
    I'd like to break the news to you folks that I am the one that has all 48 SMS Lincoln cents and all are still like they was when they come off the mat come out of the met

    Coins wrestle at the NY Opera house.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is like the Inception of troll threads.

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee said:
    I'd like to break the news to you folks that I am the one that has all 48 SMS Lincoln cents and all are still like they was when they come off the mat come out of the met

    I didn't think that there were even 48. I thought more like 15-20.

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  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    This is like the Inception of troll threads.



    That confuses me, wait, are we in Joey’s dream?

  • alefzeroalefzero Posts: 971 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a 1964 SMS (PCGS) set quite some time ago. PCGS knows the pups for the die pairs. It is unlikely one would come up unattributed. It was a high-mintage date. So, there are literally tons of them, of variable strike quality.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2024 7:05PM

    .

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alefzero said:
    I had a 1964 SMS (PCGS) set quite some time ago. PCGS knows the pups for the die pairs. It is unlikely one would come up unattributed. It was a high-mintage date. So, there are literally tons of them, of variable strike quality.

    There are literally "tons" of SMS coins????

    Professor Kitty strikes again!

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alefzero said:
    I had a 1964 SMS (PCGS) set quite some time ago. PCGS knows the pups for the die pairs. It is unlikely one would come up unattributed. It was a high-mintage date. So, there are literally tons of them, of variable strike quality.

    There are literally "tons" of SMS coins????

    Are you calling him a liar. :#

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2024 7:05PM

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alefzero said:
    I had a 1964 SMS (PCGS) set quite some time ago. PCGS knows the pups for the die pairs. It is unlikely one would come up unattributed. It was a high-mintage date. So, there are literally tons of them, of variable strike quality.

    There are literally "tons" of SMS coins????

    Are you calling him a liar. :#

    That's a question. You'll notice the question marks. You can Google what they mean if you're not sure. It is sinply not clear to me what that poster was saying.

    So when you ask a question it's a question, but when anyone else asks a question you accuse them of calling someone a liar, got it. I guess you're just a special boy.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2024 7:05PM

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2024 6:27PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @coinbuf said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alefzero said:
    I had a 1964 SMS (PCGS) set quite some time ago. PCGS knows the pups for the die pairs. It is unlikely one would come up unattributed. It was a high-mintage date. So, there are literally tons of them, of variable strike quality.

    There are literally "tons" of SMS coins????

    Are you calling him a liar. :#

    That's a question. You'll notice the question marks. You can Google what they mean if you're not sure. It is sinply not clear to me what that poster was saying.

    So when you ask a question it's a question, but when anyone else asks a question you accuse them of calling someone a liar, got it. I guess you're just a special boy.

    Revisionist history. You didn't ask a question. You asked for photographic proof of the weight.

    Let me know what rent I owe you for the space I'm taking up on your head.

    Asking if something was posted that I might have missed is a question. As you have selective memory disease let me help you out, I did not ask for photographic evidence, I asked if any had been posted. That is a question not a demand, here is a screen shot of the question as you seem to be very confused. Is understanding English not a requirement for teachers anymore? Note the question mark. :D

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2024 6:16PM

    @jmlanzaf said:
    As my mentor, maybe you could explain what the poster was saying. It is simply not clear to me to which coins he's referring.

    Professor Kitty can tell that from the context of what was written when he uses his spectacles to read the entire post.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2024 7:04PM

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  • I'm referring to the special meant sets of the mint directorEva Adams when she passed away they found in her safe and they was auctioned off to a collector and then that collector option sold them to another collector each coin out of each set was separated to each set was separated in one coin of each domination was took out of the sets I have the 50 pennies that come out of the 50 sets

  • And each one of them are ms-70 grade

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee said:
    I'm referring to the special meant sets of the mint directorEva Adams when she passed away they found in her safe and they was auctioned off to a collector and then that collector option sold them to another collector each coin out of each set was separated to each set was separated in one coin of each domination was took out of the sets I have the 50 pennies that come out of the 50 sets

  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 551 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2024 12:34AM

    @Erniegee said:
    And each one of them are ms-70 grade

    If you have them all, and all of them are ms70 then where did this ms65 come from?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee said:
    And each one of them are ms-70 grade

    If you want to spin a tale and have anyone believe it, it needs to be plausible.

    You went from 48 to 50 overnight, so you're not reading your own posts. And there are auction records so we know they aren't all 70s.

    Enjoy your weekend!

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please, @Erniegee, I desire to hear as much of that story as you know how to tell if you can’t photograph them fast enough. There’s gotta be a story about changing your drawers when you found it, trembling handover of cash, or maybe a Sunday night bid.
    Finish the story, dammit.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lcutler said:

    @Erniegee said:
    And each one of them are ms-70 grade

    If you have them all, and all of them are ms70 then where did this ms65 come from?

    Counterfeit slab?

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,480 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lcutler said:

    @Erniegee said:
    And each one of them are ms-70 grade

    If you have them all, and all of them are ms70 then where did this ms65 come from?

    At this point, why would you bother to take any of the troll’s posts the least bit seriously and address them?

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  • UpGrayeddUpGrayedd Posts: 588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee if you are going to resurrect an old thread just to troll the forum at least make it entertaining. This is kind of pathetic and sad.

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  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 551 ✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @lcutler said:

    @Erniegee said:
    And each one of them are ms-70 grade

    If you have them all, and all of them are ms70 then where did this ms65 come from?

    At this point, why would you bother to take any of the troll’s posts the least bit seriously and address them?

    Certainly nothing to take seriously Just curious to see if he had any kind of answer. Best to just let him fade away though.

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Sorry, it takes a full roll of 50 to impress me

    I'm impressed because now there's 50. They found 2 more last night to impress @FredWeinberg

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  • I can tell you this much the ones that come out of them sets didn't have not a blemish on them not and they got a satin finish the one you're showing me is a business strike so if you do your research and do a little reading you'll understand what I'm talking about now if you want to come over here and let me show you I'm new to this year give me your phone number and I'll show you all 50 of them so do you some research and read the story yourself but all you have to do is shoot me a phone number and I'll be more than glad to shoot them your way that coin there is not out of that special meant set and on the 48th two of them I just send off to get graded so there you go

  • I meant to say that the 48 to us sent off to get graded makes 50 I don't have the money to get them all graded or I would have so I'm trying to do all I can do right now

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee said:
    I'm referring to the special meant sets of the mint directorEva Adams when she passed away they found in her safe

  • Out of the 50 special mint sets to Eva Adams had in her safe none of them get released to the public they don't even know why they made them they believe that they was prototypes some people believe they were prototypesSo

  • Now I personally believe that the collector that I got them from didn't do his research and he don't even know what he had when it comes to that 50 specials and I got him out of a reasonable price and I didn't know what I had cuz I was new at it so I read up on that 64 the Rolex pennies that I had cuz they look special to me and that's when I run across the story of of Eva Adams now I imagine I could go back and he's probably got a quarter dimes and nickels and the 50 cent pieces and y'all probably even know him

  • He owns one of the biggest coin stores in the state of Florida

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee said:
    I didn't know what I had cuz I was new at it so I read up on that 64 the Rolex pennies that I had

  • Now you gentlemen have a nice day I won't be speaking on this form no time soon so y'all have a very good day and

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for sreppin’’ in!

    @Erniegee said:
    Now you gentlemen have a nice day I won't be speaking on this form no time soon so y'all have a very good day and

  • Tom147Tom147 Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Erniegee said:
    I meant to say that the 48 to us sent off to get graded makes 50 I don't have the money to get them all graded or I would have so I'm trying to do all I can do right now

    1 So you have the money to buy " all 48 " OR " all 50 " but can't afford to get them all graded ?

    2 If they're all ms70 but not all graded ? How's that work ?

    3 Do you seriously think anyone here believes you ?

    As others have said, ignore the OP troll, but it's a slow day here. Staying for the entertainment.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,480 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tom147 said:

    @Erniegee said:
    I meant to say that the 48 to us sent off to get graded makes 50 I don't have the money to get them all graded or I would have so I'm trying to do all I can do right now

    1 So you have the money to buy " all 48 " OR " all 50 " but can't afford to get them all graded ?

    2 If they're all ms70 but not all graded ? How's that work ?

    3 Do you seriously think anyone here believes you ?

    As others have said, ignore the OP troll, but it's a slow day here. Staying for the entertainment.

    By asking questions of him, you, yourself, aren’t ignoring him.
    Sometimes it’s difficult to tell if someone is trolling. This isn’t one of those times.

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  • Tom147Tom147 Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As I said, a slow day here.

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