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Fake off-center 1922 No D cent -- Please report

CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reported ;)

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Man, that's a poor fake. Lincoln knows. He's smiling.

    No one bid, thank goodness.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2022 8:52AM

    Seller ended the auction...

    There are a number of these fakes with different dates available.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2022 8:56AM

    Obviously struck from counterfeit dies, but the Off Center strike doesn't look right as well.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seller said thanks and ended the auction.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everybody!

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    Seller said thanks and ended the auction.

    you know when i used to report a lot of these, i couldn't shake the thought that when someone listing/selling this stuff said thanks, it really meant: (*&#$ you, thanks for nothing. i'm not ruining the world, just trying to feed my kids for a couple weeks or what is your problem. i live in an area of the world people would assume i just go off and die somewhere because i'm poor and only i'm trying to stir up enough money to keep my shabby hut. besides, aren't you all rich in the usa anyway?

    and truth be told, i did get a couple messages not TOO far off from those lines of thought.

    but alas, we certainly cannot allow this to be acceptable. crime has a way of starting out small and the next thing ya know....

    kinda one of the reasons i really don't even support the purchasing of counterfeits for study anymore. just makes those channels stronger and probably bolder. for sure i support ebays zero tolerance (in the rules anyway) for this stuff and anything like it. just undermines it completely.

    so thanks to those still taking the time. :+1:

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @MFeld said:
    Seller said thanks and ended the auction.

    you know when i used to report a lot of these, i couldn't shake the thought that when someone listing/selling this stuff said thanks, it really meant: (*&#$ you, thanks for nothing. i'm not ruining the world, just trying to feed my kids for a couple weeks or what is your problem. i live in an area of the world people would assume i just go off and die somewhere because i'm poor and only i'm trying to stir up enough money to keep my shabby hut. besides, aren't you all rich in the usa anyway?

    and truth be told, i did get a couple messages not TOO far off from those lines of thought.

    but alas, we certainly cannot allow this to be acceptable. crime has a way of starting out small and the next thing ya know....

    kinda one of the reasons i really don't even support the purchasing of counterfeits for study anymore. just makes those channels stronger and probably bolder. for sure i support ebays zero tolerance (in the rules anyway) for this stuff and anything like it. just undermines it completely.

    so thanks to those still taking the time. :+1:

    We have no way of knowing whether a message from a stranger is sincere. However, based on my experience, when a seller ends the listing and sends a thank you, I don't question it.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @MFeld said:
    Seller said thanks and ended the auction.

    you know when i used to report a lot of these, i couldn't shake the thought that when someone listing/selling this stuff said thanks, it really meant: (*&#$ you, thanks for nothing. i'm not ruining the world, just trying to feed my kids for a couple weeks or what is your problem. i live in an area of the world people would assume i just go off and die somewhere because i'm poor and only i'm trying to stir up enough money to keep my shabby hut. besides, aren't you all rich in the usa anyway?

    and truth be told, i did get a couple messages not TOO far off from those lines of thought.

    but alas, we certainly cannot allow this to be acceptable. crime has a way of starting out small and the next thing ya know....

    kinda one of the reasons i really don't even support the purchasing of counterfeits for study anymore. just makes those channels stronger and probably bolder. for sure i support ebays zero tolerance (in the rules anyway) for this stuff and anything like it. just undermines it completely.

    so thanks to those still taking the time. :+1:

    We have no way of knowing whether a message from a stranger is sincere. However, based on my experience, when a seller ends the listing and sends a thank you, I don't question it.

    I've made more of an effort recently to contact sellers directly, especially when only 1 or 2 items out of their inventory are counterfeits and the rest are genuine. In cases like these, it is likely the counterfeits are being offered unintentionally. I've been pleasantly surprised how cooperative and appreciative the sellers have been.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:
    I've made more of an effort recently to contact sellers directly, especially when only 1 or 2 items out of their inventory are > counterfeits and the rest are genuine. In cases like these, it is likely the counterfeits are being offered unintentionally. I've
    been pleasantly surprised how cooperative and appreciative the sellers have been.

    surprising indeed. with the shoe on the other foot i'm surprised they have the wherewithal to take someone at their word and do some investigation and then take appropriate action.

    i've made some attribution mistakes over the years and when someone contacted me, i didn't just remove an item because they are sometimes mistaken but i'd look over the item"s" then respond appropriately and thank the person and if uncertain one way or the other, then just remove the item until i can make a definitive determination.

    not sure ebay knows how fortunate they are to have such specialists take their time (gratis) to try and keep one little corner of it cleaned up.

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @IkesT said:
    I've made more of an effort recently to contact sellers directly, especially when only 1 or 2 items out of their inventory are > counterfeits and the rest are genuine. In cases like these, it is likely the counterfeits are being offered unintentionally. I've
    been pleasantly surprised how cooperative and appreciative the sellers have been.

    surprising indeed. with the shoe on the other foot i'm surprised they have the wherewithal to take someone at their word and do some investigation and then take appropriate action.

    i've made some attribution mistakes over the years and when someone contacted me, i didn't just remove an item because they are sometimes mistaken but i'd look over the item"s" then respond appropriately and thank the person and if uncertain one way or the other, then just remove the item until i can make a definitive determination.

    not sure ebay knows how fortunate they are to have such specialists take their time (gratis) to try and keep one little corner of it cleaned up.

    When contacting sellers about counterfeits, I've found it goes a long way to point out the correct weight of the genuine coin, as this is something most people can check quickly and easily. Once they realize the weight of their coin is off, they're no longer just taking my word for it.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    Another one GONE! Perfect!

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The color and texture reminds me of a few SVDB that have been yanked

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  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the same "family"...

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burfle23... Wow, that is one I have not seen before.... I do not spend time searching ebay anymore, so do not see a lot of these (actually, one of the reasons I stopped searching ebay).... Clearly fake....Cheers, RickO

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for snagging some pictures before it was pulled.

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the update of the listing being pulled.
    I was going to report it.
    Wayne

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  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It wasn't pulled, ended by seller. He responded to me he was going back to the individual who sold it to him; stated he had $250 in it- ouch...

  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On some off these counterfeits, I cannot tell good from bad. And I've been in the game awhile.

    Sticking with certified pre 33 gold. 1800-1932 from sellers with integrity.

    Have a nice day
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burfle23 said:
    From the same "family"...

    The hollowed out cheek, an obvious giveaway.

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  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Others I have images of:

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