Second Lincoln Cent collection with a Counterfeit 09SVDB!
MarkW63
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https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=geoboula0&_pgn=1&isRefine=true
Listing is still up!
Its untold just how many of these counterfeit and altered SVDB's are setting around in collections totally thought of as being genuine, its amazing
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
I don't know @MarkW63 , the "VDB" kinda whispers to me
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Reported.
Reported
The listing was removed.
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
Nice Group Effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI7YzUKE_wI
Thanks to everyone seen & UNSEEN
We've tackled well over 100 of just SVDB's
I'm certain within those there is SOME we'll see again, but I'm also sure that of them, many were listed by responsible sellers, and even some dealers that will either destroy the coin, or put it away and keep it out of circulation.
So, the ratio of phony to genuine has moved more towards genuine being the greater number!
Something I noticed in my last two threads, both listings were taking down in under 5 total comments!. makes me wonder?
Are we losing interest?? OR
Are with getting down to less talk and more action
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
The faster their taken down, the better it is.
We're making progress.
Pete
@alpaha33
Well, in the current day approach if that was the go to method most counterfeit Lincoln's would be stuffed into collections.
I contacted her back and told her that I knew the coin would weight correctly, but she said the coin had been in her father's collection for many MANY years and the coin checked out to be genuine!
That's assuming more aren't being produced.
Well, its entirely possible that in one of those cargo ships setting out at in the ocean waiting to get unloaded, that anyone of them could contain 50 million FRESH die struct HIGH grade SVDB counterfeits, & possibly of such high quality that it could take the professional grading services DECADES to detect the first one.
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So, based on what we KNOW! based on just my threads & finds, in just this forum, in just the past year, this group effort has gotten over 100 listings pulled!
In that time its UNTOLD how many more people have been made aware (better educated) to the fraud around this coin, so in that we can assume, an increased awareness of these counterfeits has spread to now a much larger group EXPOSING even more of the fraud coins.
Have you done say a Duck Duck Go internet search for about anything 1909SVDB? Look how many search entries you'll see from LOTS of members right here from this forum
That's the reason why, we want pictures & details of what's altered or counterfeited, the information is being archived!
Public counterfeit detection has come a long way, there is still old video's on the net from a time when it was a NEWS FLASH about measurement & weight, that was it
Here is one case in point!
About 10 months ago I ran across a lady selling a counterfeit SVDB on ebay, I spotted it right off because it was an exact sibling to the one I got burned on nearly two years ago. So, I first contacted her about the coin, she thanked me, and pulled the listing. Well a couple of days later she relisted the coin, showing it laying on a digital scale
So,the listing was put up on the forum and the powers that be, did what they do and ebay removed the listing!
Thanks for your comment
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
The “been in my ________’s collection”
And
“I got it from my __________”
Stories are ancient tales
But I was NICE!
I gave her a chance!
I sent her picture proof of the coin being counterfeit!
She for sure wasn't a seller who dealt in coins.
So, farther action was needed, then POOF, it was gone!
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
Yeah.
Great work guys.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
Anyway, where they say they got it is irrelevant
Even if passed down, the person before received a counterfeit
Inside joke I guess.
It is for these reasons the complete wheat cent collection I put together in a Dansco has cracked out NGC 09SVDB and NGC 14-D. Yes I retained pictures of the coins in the holders as well as the inserts
Successful BST Transactions: erwindoc, VTchaser, moursund, robkool, RelicKING, Herb_T, Meltdown, ElmerFusterpuck, airplanenut
Somewhat, but its not hidden, its a sort of flash to an introduction to a certain SVBD that was made by another forum member back around the holidays. The best we could figure about that description of their coin was "Whispering VDB" was just a name the member used for reference to a faint or weak strike in the area of the designers initials on the coin.
Its has nothing to do with the coin or collection in the OP of this thread!
Thanks for dropping by
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
I did the same thing for my 09SVDB, but I didn't crack the slab, I cut the front window out, (C-Sectioned you could say)
The one I have I purchased off ebay, but it was a well established PCGS/NGC certified dealer, and before the purchase I sent them a message and ask them to PLEASE DOUBLE check the coin & the holder to make sure both were in fact genuine
Some other I cut out of the slabs!
But, I have to make this warning, even slabs are counterfeited, like this one below!
And there is better versions of these counterfeited slabs around too
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
Interesting approach - Thanks! And yes, it helps considerably if the slab is not fake
Successful BST Transactions: erwindoc, VTchaser, moursund, robkool, RelicKING, Herb_T, Meltdown, ElmerFusterpuck, airplanenut
@MarkW63... You have done amazing work on these fake cents over the past few months. Congratulations on your efforts... No doubt saved many collectors financial grief. Cheers, RickO