TruView tells the truth!

rhedden

I was looking at a coin for sale this morning on the website of a dealer that I really like. The coin is in a PCGS XF40 holder. I checked out the cert. on the PCGS website, and the TruView photo shows a full-slab picture of the coin with the cert. visible, which is unusual. The coin is sitting in a PCGS VF35 holder with a different cert number in the TruView.

I don't want to link the coin, obviously, because it could be harmful to the seller's efforts to find it a new home. I was just wondering how a full-slab photo of the coin ended up in the TruView image with a different grade on it. Is this situation due to the previous owner uploading an image in their PCGS set registry inventory? Was the full-slab photo snapped by PCGS years ago when they were taking snapshots of certain coins they wanted for Coinfacts?

Anyway, I hope you appreciate the humor with finding a photo of the coin in a lower grade holder in the TruView of a higher grade holder.

Boosibri

The holder type true views are what you get when a coin is graded in Europe

rhedden

Good info.! I guess they grade harder in Europe?

oih82w8

IF it is the same coin, perhaps it upgraded and the seller was using an older slab image. 35 to a 40 is not large of a leap in grading.

fastfreddie

Please post pictures after your purchase.

messydesk

Since the cert number didn't change, all I can think of is that the coin was photographed in the holder before going through QA, at which time the grade was bumped from 35 to 40, but they never reshot the photo.

U1chicago

@messydesk said:
Since the cert number didn't change, all I can think of is that the coin was photographed in the holder before going through QA, at which time the grade was bumped from 35 to 40, but they never reshot the photo.

It seems like the cert number is different in the full slab image according to the original post.

I have seen what you mentioned (happened with an NGC coin that I used to own).

rhedden

Yes, I guess I didn't explain things clearly. On the PCGS Cert page, the coin is graded XF40 and has a certain cert number, but on that same exact Cert page, the TruView image shows it graded VF35 and it has a different cert number.

messydesk

@rhedden said:
Yes, I guess I didn't explain things clearly. On the PCGS Cert page, the coin is graded XF40 and has a certain cert number, but on that same exact Cert page, the TruView image shows it graded VF35 and it has a different cert number.

Now that I read it again. I obviously hadn't finished waking up when I read it the first time.

rhedden

I don't wake up until my 13th cup of coffee, so I'm with you there.

airplanenut

@rhedden said:
Yes, I guess I didn't explain things clearly. On the PCGS Cert page, the coin is graded XF40 and has a certain cert number, but on that same exact Cert page, the TruView image shows it graded VF35 and it has a different cert number.

Is it the same coin in the slab photo? Any chance they just got file names jumbled and are showing the wrong image?

CoinJunkie

@messydesk said:
Since the cert number didn't change, all I can think of is that the coin was photographed in the holder before going through QA, at which time the grade was bumped from 35 to 40, but they never reshot the photo.

I would have thought the grade would always be "finalized" prior to encapsulation. There may be an inspection thereafter to check for mechanical errors on the label.

In terms of what happened in this particular instance, my guess would be that it was regraded and got bumped to 40, but that images weren't ordered for the regrade, and PCGS linked what preexisted to the new cert number. As stated, purely a guess on my part.

rhedden

@airplanenut said:

@rhedden said:
Yes, I guess I didn't explain things clearly. On the PCGS Cert page, the coin is graded XF40 and has a certain cert number, but on that same exact Cert page, the TruView image shows it graded VF35 and it has a different cert number.

Is it the same coin in the slab photo? Any chance they just got file names jumbled and are showing the wrong image?

Definitely the same coin in both images. It has distinguishing marks.

@CoinJunkie said:

@messydesk said:
Since the cert number didn't change, all I can think of is that the coin was photographed in the holder before going through QA, at which time the grade was bumped from 35 to 40, but they never reshot the photo.

I would have thought the grade would always be "finalized" prior to encapsulation. There may be an inspection thereafter to check for mechanical errors on the label.

In terms of what happened in this particular instance, my guess would be that it was regraded and got bumped to 40, but that images weren't ordered for the regrade, and PCGS linked what preexisted to the new cert number. As stated, purely a guess on my part.

I think you are correct.

ricko

I agree with @CoinJunkie ... That is a logical - and probable - explanation. Cheers, RickO