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An acetone example of an improvement

joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

Hi guys, showed this Toned Kennedy I found in another thread. However, after soaking in acetone for 24 hrs. It seems to improve? To me anyway? Whatcha guys think? Thanks

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The colors look a bit more vibrant, less muted, in the after picture

    Mr_Spud

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,424 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a great looking coin. It's a definite improvement. B)

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2022 1:36PM

    Thanks guys!
    Sometimes, when I dip a toned coin into acetone, some of the colors would disappear? This time, the colors pop even more! :)
    The acetone made the area near the date, more clearer.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The colors were hiding that thin layer of “dirt”

    Once that layer is gone things can pop

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If there is some oil on a coin it can sometimes give off colors that can disappear if you remove the oil with acetone.

    Mr_Spud

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2022 3:17PM

    Yeah, like you guys mentioned. It's the organic oils that appears to have colors, being removed after the acetone hit it! In my case. This is when it's a true toned coin. :)

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dirt or grime on a coin exists in many forms. I also notice that acetone clears the luster or surface reflection. IMO. Better living through chemstry. Roy

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  • @joeykoins said:
    Thanks guys!
    Sometimes, when I dip a toned coin into acetone, some of the colors would disappear? This time, the colors pop even more! :)
    The acetone made the area near the date, more clearer.

    While the coin is sitting in the acetone, it allows light to reflect off the surface of the coin without refracting as much through the toning. I've found that shining a light on a toned coin while it's submerged in acetone lets me see under the toning, it's a useful method to determine if a coin is a candidate for a dip or not.

  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just don’t use the pink kind with perfume in it

  • Joey29Joey29 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
    edited January 9, 2022 1:10AM

    @Oldhoopster said:
    Chemically, acetone won't touch the toning that occurs when the surface metal reacts with the environment. Any changes you see after an acetone soak are due to removal of organic adherents, not the toning.

    So if I submit my blazing gold toned MS 65 Buffalo for conservation for minor pvc is the coin going to look better, worse, or the same? Please advise. Thanks

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your acetone soak has confirmed the fact that you have a tarnished Kennedy half dollar. ;):D Cheers, RickO

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joey29 said:

    @Oldhoopster said:
    Chemically, acetone won't touch the toning that occurs when the surface metal reacts with the environment. Any changes you see after an acetone soak are due to removal of organic adherents, not the toning.

    So if I submit my blazing gold toned MS 65 Buffalo for conservation for minor pvc is the coin going to look better, worse, or the same? Please advise. Thanks

    If the toning is caused by the metal on the surface reacting to form oxides, sulfides, etc, then acetone won't touch it. If the toning is due to a thin film of organic contamination, then there is a good chance that acetone will affect it. So it depends on what's causing your toning.

    However, PVC plasticizer residue, will react with moisture and form hydrochloric acid, which is never good for a coin. The longer it stays there, the higher the probability of permanent damage

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like it a lot.
    My first experience with acetone dipping is your above pictures.
    Thanks @joeykoins
    Wayne

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice.



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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Atcarroll said:

    @joeykoins said:
    Thanks guys!
    Sometimes, when I dip a toned coin into acetone, some of the colors would disappear? This time, the colors pop even more! :)
    The acetone made the area near the date, more clearer.

    While the coin is sitting in the acetone, it allows light to reflect off the surface of the coin without refracting as much through the toning. I've found that shining a light on a toned coin while it's submerged in acetone lets me see under the toning, it's a useful method to determine if a coin is a candidate for a dip or not.

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