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Coinundrum: Do you keep or sell the good piece you just got the grade back on?

WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 23, 2021 11:22AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Not quite 2 years ago, I asked for opinions about a piece I kind of stole from HA that wasn't really in my wheelhouse: Should I keep a really good but not quite match because I got it cheap, or should I sell it and use the fat stack of a profit to get something closer to what I do? That piece was a rare large silver bar from the Chinese / Vietnam border from before the turn of the century:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1032310/conundrum-when-you-start-believing-your-own-hype-about-a-coin/p1
Most people thought I should sell and I almost did--had a good bid on it and everything. In the end, I decided to keep it and I'm happy with that decision.

Today I find myself with a similar dilemma or coinundrum. I was offered a pretty good piece, raw, a couple of months back. I weighed the plusses and minuses: Fake, details, or straight.
Fake I lose. Details it's a wash. Straight I clean up. And I was pretty sure it was solid mid straight with a fighting chance for higher straight.
So I pulled the trigger.

ATS struggled for the last 6 weeks but grade posted last night: Straight and pretty high grade.

It's a good piece. Probably the most valuable piece I've owned. It wouldn't not fit in my box of 20, it's just not really what I pursue. Honestly, I gambled on it to move it hoping for a profit. But there's a bit of a trophy aspect to a win like this. I've never handled one before. And I got her pretty cheap.

So do you keep a really good piece you gambled on and won? Or do you just move it through the pipeline knowing your gamble paid off?

We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
--Severian the Lame

Comments

  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a tough one. I've done that a time or two and opted to sell in the end. I have regrets from time to time mostly because It WAS that nice and I probably won't ever pony up the dollars it would take to replace.
    Still, I enjoyed the profits and added to my bullion with "free money" so the win is still there.

    On the other hand, I've been sitting on a few pieces over the years that I did get a decent steal on and have chosen to keep for much the same reasoning... I wouldn't want to pay the cost of replacing.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2021 9:43AM

    Regardless of what you currently collect, do you like the piece?

    If it's only a trophy because of the rip, I'd probably lean to selling at some point. The following doesn't scream, "I love this piece":

    @Weiss said:
    It's a good piece. Probably the most valuable piece I've owned.

  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hold for awhile. Enjoy some of the win by physically having it in your collection.
    Is the price likely to go up with time?
    Most of the raw pieces that I've unearthed, sent in, got nice grades on and flipped promptly are pieces I wouldn't mind having now. Some I let go of too soon as the market has shot up since selling..
    Never hurts to wait awhile!

  • 3stars3stars Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm i the same boat - I'm leaning toward keep since I like the coin and I can say I own a low mintage coin in a high grade that I got for 10% above melt.

    Previous transactions: Wondercoin, goldman86, dmarks, Type2
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Put it out there with a BIN that you would be very happy with.

    Put the proceeds into your core collection if it sells and enjoy it while you have it.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The market is hot. It is time to sell.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes it happens from time to time but you where lucky to get it and you can’t sell some if you don’t have it. But it’s a way to upgrade your main set’s with out coming up with the extra cash we can’t keep them all.



    Hoard the keys.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm always a seller of the things I don't really collect because I know I'll need the money soon enough for something else.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,463 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just go through a cost benefit analysis which obviously would include how much you like this item verse whether the money can be better utilized elsewhere. While it is fun to try and time markets, sometimes that does not work out

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would sell and use the funds for something more focused to my collection.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • CopperWireCopperWire Posts: 492 ✭✭✭

    It sounds like your original intentions were to make a profit. Then the emotional enjoyment of finding your own diamond in the rough is preventing you from parting with it. You said it's not part of your box of 20, perhaps start shopping for whatever coin would replace it (one in your forte). Maybe then it won't feel like you are letting go but trading in a sense.

  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it were me, I'd own it to enjoy for a while, then make sure I've got good pictures and sell it.

    mirabela
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So what is it???? Perhaps it is changing your focus?

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:
    It's a good piece. Probably the most valuable piece I've owned. It wouldn't not fit in my box of 20

    Given the quality of your Box of 20, I'm insanely curious what this most valuable piece is!

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I buy things outside of my main collecting interest from time to time because of price or some other reason. I always end up selling eventually. Given today's market......

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2021 12:52PM

    Depends on your interests. If it suits your interests, then keep it. If you need the money for something you want or like better, then you'd do well to sell it. Personally, I try to keep everything I can, unless I don't like it, its a duplicate or I need the money for something else. I also keep duplicates, when I can, too. Just depends on your priorities and how much money you need, at the time.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @Weiss said:
    It's a good piece. Probably the most valuable piece I've owned. It wouldn't not fit in my box of 20

    Given the quality of your Box of 20, I'm insanely curious what this most valuable piece is!

    I'll give you a tiny hint:

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I keep it until I don't keep it. Hope that helps.

    MLAeBayNumismatics: "The greatest hobby in the world!"
  • dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:

    I'll give you a tiny hint:

    Well I’d sell everything else I own and start over with that one as my anchor, but my BO20 if different from yours I’m assuming.

    We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 6,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The pitfalls of being limited to a box of 20. I’d try to jam 1 more slot into that box for that coin.

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes I’m a sucker for a deal. I would probably keep and enjoy until I was given an offer I couldn’t refuse.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Downtown1974 said:
    The pitfalls of being limited to a box of 20. I’d try to jam 1 more slot into that box for that coin.

    Or just start a 2nd box. ;)

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As soon as freshly graded coin comes back it’s put in inventory / listed for sale. So timeframe when sells can vary.

    Coins & Currency
  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,249 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had something similar happen with a 1921 Peace Dollar a few years back. I bought it raw and it came back as a 64. I wasn't really collecting Peace Dollars (still not collecting them now) so I let it go and picked up some other coins. Looking back, I made the wrong financial decision given that the coin is 3x-4x the value this year. But no one really knew the upswing these coins would go on in 2021. At the time the decision made sense as I was able to fund other coins that better fit my collection. I'm fairly certain I would make the same decision now. My thinking is sell if you can use the funds for something you like more; keep if you want to risk it as an investment for the future or if you don't have anything better to put the funds towards.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,164 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If, as you say, it is not in your wheelhouse of collectibles, then I would say sell it and replace it with a stellar coin within your wheelhouse.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you get a large, unexpected bonus at work do you frame the check, or do you buy something you'd like more with the money? Several years ago my wife's boss sold his company and she got an unexpected six figure bonus. We bought a few things we liked more.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with others. If you're not attached to the piece, it's an excellent opportunity to sell and use the profits to expand other interests.
    Congrats

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've sold pretty much all the coins I got slabbed that graded higher than I had expected. About the only way I wouldn't is if it was part of my core collection but my core collection is not something I would buy raw anyway.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would likely keep such an item.... I do not buy many coins anymore, just the special one's that capture my attention for any one of several reasons. Getting a special item at a bargain price is a great experience. A coin like that will hold it's value, so enjoy it. If something super comes along that fits your interest, well, you have 'bank' piece that will allow you to get that special item. Cheers, RickO

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah! It's obviously not a keeper without it for him. If it fails I'll give you 1/2 CAC money for it! >:)

    @CopperWire said:
    Well now we need you to send it to CAC before we can give opinions.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's your coin and only you can decide how much you want to keep it. Assuming you don't need the money right away, you may want to keep it a while to see if it grows on you. You can always sell it but you can't normally unsell it.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • seduloussedulous Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Less is more. A few high quality, valuable pieces will more likely have higher returns, easier to sell, better for your heirs to handle, etc. Also, the comment about the right market timing for selling is key. Sell the dredge for an equivalency of the value of this better-than-expected graded piece. It is a little more work but a much better ROI and less of a headache organizational-wise. This is a gift opportunity for you to consider re-evaluating collecting interests and reflecting.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

  • CopperWireCopperWire Posts: 492 ✭✭✭

    I wanted to add another question: Is it something that could be replaced in the future? Or is it that rare that it would take crazy effort to replace?

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Early gold is extremely liquid and the market is as likely to go up as down, so I'd probably hang onto it until you either need the money or simply don't want to own it anymore for whatever reason.

  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it is Pre-33 Gold it is a keeper in my books. For me, coins are a hobby. It doesn't matter if the price went up. Everything I bought 2-3 years ago is up a lot. They all still have a place in my hoard.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you need the money?

    Do you like the coin?

    If you decide to sell I can’t think of a better time then now. Nobody has the ability to predict what the value of the coin will be down the road.

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