Need some help with a 1916 Mercury Dime from Coin Show

C2C

Update:
So most people took the "D" shaped toning as the point of the post, which it was not, and a little shout out to the two people who caught the doubling on the wreath/vine. I appreciate those who tried to help me determine if this was a variety of any sort on the Philly mint coin.

Hello, I'm hoping to get some help on this. It's a 1916 Mercury Dime 66-FB and one of the first coins I every purchased at a Coin Show. I was looking at it tonight and I'm not sure if it was the lighting, or what, but as I was checking the bands under my digital microscope, well... Please tell me if you see anything odd for a Philly struck 1916 Mercury Dime. Thanks.

C2C

Am I crazy, or did NGC miss something?

Treashunt

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...
thinking.

Can you put a light on the area?

gumby1234

You're crazy

291fifth

The toning has created the illusion of a "D".

ricko

It is not a mint mark... the tarnish has created an illusion - pareidolia .... Cheers, RickO

WAYNEAS

@ricko said:
It is not a mint mark... the tarnish has created an illusion - pareidolia .... Cheers, RickO

Wine also helps with the illusion.
Wayne

ricko

@WAYNEAS.... Ah yes.... I believe you are speaking from experience.... As I would... Cheers, RickO

MFeld

Have you looked at images of 1916-D dimes, including the size, shape and placement of the mintmark? If so and you can be objective, you should know that NGC didn’t miss anything.

Type2

We all see what we want to see sometimes. 😉

CoinHoarder

Here’s the mint mark on my 16-D for comparison. If you re-submit it, please let us know the results. Sorry, not very good at pictures.

Namvet69

Nope, nada, nicht, nyet. No D. Peace Roy

C2C

@291fifth said:
The toning has created the illusion of a "D".

That's exactly what I think. How funny is that?

fcloud

All four versions of the D mint mark stand proud. They were hammered deeply into the die(s).

moursund

@WAYNEAS said:

@ricko said:
It is not a mint mark... the tarnish has created an illusion - pareidolia .... Cheers, RickO

Wine also helps with the illusion.
Wayne

Or smoking 'hopium'... 😉

C2C

Ultimately, the coin has some funny toning in the area where a mint mark would be, but that's irrelevant. There is doubling on the wreath near where a mint mark would be had it one, which this coin obviously does not. It is the doubling I have been most interested in, which I cannot find any indication of it being a variety, so I assume it is not. Very few forums members were actually decent about my question. The rest were self inflated flakes looking to make fun of a new member to the forum with a question about...a coin...

Some people, and I really don't understand why, are unnecessarily rude, unnecessarily combative, and completely unhelpful. I understand there are a lot of people more experienced in coins than I am, which is why I sought some better eyes to help catch any variety that might have been missed. While a person or two were at least somewhat helpful, several were just prideful and arrogant with their alcoholic and drug related jokes and ought to be ashamed of themselves.

There was no reason to waste your time, or mine, hazing, making fun-of, or otherwise diverting from the actual point of the post of a newer forum member asking for guidance. A little humility goes a long way. If you do not have a valid contribution to a direct question, or a clarifying question related to the initial post, why waste time and degrade yourselves with terrible drug and alcohol related jokes? Maybe in a word full of flakes, try to stand out as not a flake?

Thanks to the couple of people who messaged me and picked up on the doubling of the wreath/vine. I appreciate it.

C2C

@fcloud said:
All four versions of the D mint mark stand proud. They were hammered deeply into the die(s).

No mint mark on the coin. It's doubling of the vine or wreath. The toning in the mint mark area is just a funny coincidence.

C2C

@fcloud said:
All four versions of the D mint mark stand proud. They were hammered deeply into the die(s).

Not talking about a mint mark, it's the wreath/vine doubling. It's just an unattributed variety. Nothing special. Only a couple of people actually caught the doubling. Most everyone made fun of the toning where a mint mark would have been. I thought I was clear on this being a Philly strike, but apparently was not clear enough.

C2C

@Namvet69 said:
Nope, nada, nicht, nyet. No D. Peace Roy

Wasn't about a D, was about the doubling. Thanks though.

C2C

@MFeld said:
Have you looked at images of 1916-D dimes, including the size, shape and placement of the mintmark? If so and you can be objective, you should know that NGC didn’t miss anything.

I've not been back for a while, so I never responded. It wasn't;t about a D mint mark, it's the doubling a couple of good eyes caught. I appreciate the response though.

MsMorrisine

Did you check variety vista?

Oldhoopster

Re: doubling, I don't see any evidence of notching/split serifs, it's flat, and there looks like some thinning on the E. Those are characteristics of mechanical doubling, which isn't considered a variety

Here are the characteristics of true hub doubling
https://www.doubleddie.com/58222.html

Characteristics of MD and other non-value added doubling
https://www.doubleddie.com/144801.html

fcloud

I don't see the doubling; I see camera movement which may blur the doubling. Hopefully there is enough doubling to make it worthwhile.

C2C

@fcloud said:
I don't see the doubling; I see camera movement which may blur the doubling. Hopefully there is enough doubling to make it worthwhile.

Defiantly easier in person or with video. I don't think it's any type of variety, but was worth checking. Still a fun first year mercury dime. Thank you.

William
-C2C

habaraca

D for Doubling I see it.......

and YES there are a LOT of #%^#^% $&^$ on this board