Kind of what I thought about your message to the seller, wanting to return the coin but not being willing to actually ask.
You are 100% incorrect. You don't even know me. BTW, what did I write to the seller? How would you know what I said? I knowingly bought the coin knowing there were NO Returns. I'm owning it but won't make that mistake again. I couldn't be easier to deal with.
You said earlier in this thread that you contacted the seller but didn't ask to return it. [Not that there's anything wrong with that. ]
Kind of what I thought about your message to the seller, wanting to return the coin but not being willing to actually ask.
You are 100% incorrect. You don't even know me. BTW, what did I write to the seller? How would you know what I said?
Because you told us?
@MWallace said:
I sent the seller a message this past Friday. I basically told them the problem and that I knew it was a No Return purchase on bullion. I didn't ask to return it.
@MasonG
You said that in my message to the seller I was "wanting to return the coin but not being willing to actually ask."
I did not ask to return it, you don't know me, and you don't know my motives, which there were none. You are putting words in my mouth and think you know why I wrote what I wrote. You couldn't be more wrong. I'd appreciate it if you'd kindly leave me alone. Please.
Have a nice holiday season. I've done nothing to deserve the way you've talked to me. There's no place for that on this board. No need to respond to me, you've been marked IGNORE.
Two things. One is that when you come here with an issue towards a seller (many experienced sellers and dealers here, I dig it) expect to be questioned in all directions. Otherwise, keep it to yourself. This is a forum.
Secondly, try to avoid being overly sensitive. It will allow you the learned ability to listen to many of our experienced members here.
@MilesWaits said:
Secondly, try to avoid being overly sensitive. It will allow you the learned ability to listen to many of our experienced members here.
Uhhh. The OP is one of the "experienced members here."
The respondent in question stopped discussing the issue/question at hand some time ago and started making it personal. That can happen sometimes but when it does the focus needs to be redirected.
As for business strike SEs, it"s fair to call them bullion when raw, but when someone has paid to have it slabbed they intended it to be a collectable.
So, the dealer can't have it both ways (apart from whatever rules ebay might have).
Just because it is graded and put in plastic with First Strike or First Day or other nonsensical designations doesn't change the fact that they are just bullion and are only worth SE bullion price.
Factually incorrect. Just check prices of various slabbed SEs (MS70, etc.), or of some earlier dates, the 1996 in particular.
Go ahead and take you super slabbed designated, First Strike, MS70 coin you bought from some slick TV crook and see how much you get for your "collectable".
As for business strike SEs, it"s fair to call them bullion when raw, but when someone has paid to have it slabbed they intended it to be a collectable.
So, the dealer can't have it both ways (apart from whatever rules ebay might have).
Just because it is graded and put in plastic with First Strike or First Day or other nonsensical designations doesn't change the fact that they are just bullion and are only worth SE bullion price.
Factually incorrect. Just check prices of various slabbed SEs (MS70, etc.), or of some earlier dates, the 1996 in particular.
Go ahead and take you super slabbed designated, First Strike, MS70 coin you bought from some slick TV crook and see how much you get for your "collectable".
I don't buy that crap. But in any case, let's turn it around. Why don't you walk into your local coin store and tell them you want 1996 SEs at bullion value.
@Che_Grapes said:
I wish grading companies wouldn’t even grade bullion non-numismatic coins ... they are intended for investment, not collectors.
Why would you buy a bullion coin intended for investment and have it graded as if it was numismatic?
Just for money I guess but I do wish investment coins were not legal tender and not treated as collectibles.
What about the ones that circulated as legal tender in the day, but are now bullion only coins and the series that you collect stratles both circulated and non-circulated?
@JBK said:
Why don't you walk into your local coin store and tell them you want 1996 SEs at bullion value.
My kid and I embarked on an ASE quest for the Dansco and got the 1996 ASE in the raw for 60$ last year.
It was right around the time when the silver prices had spiked like crazy and most 1 oz. silver bars were selling for upwards of 35 bucks on eBay. I thought it was not that too bad of a score!!!
And this is why I don't pay premiums on modern items such as ASE's or AGE's... I steer clear unless near metal content value. Nearly every example gets slabbed/saved. Purchased and stacked a bunch of modern US Commemorative gold at melt before the run-up in gold but was purchasing as "bullion" at the time. I'll purchase pre-1933 gold all day over these over-priced items when large premiums get added on.
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You said earlier in this thread that you contacted the seller but didn't ask to return it. [Not that there's anything wrong with that. ]
Because you told us?
Then I suppose bars can be round. It's all so confusing..
@MasonG
You said that in my message to the seller I was "wanting to return the coin but not being willing to actually ask."
I did not ask to return it, you don't know me, and you don't know my motives, which there were none. You are putting words in my mouth and think you know why I wrote what I wrote. You couldn't be more wrong. I'd appreciate it if you'd kindly leave me alone. Please.
If you don't want to read my posts, there is an "Ignore List". I would advise adding my id to it.
@MasonG
Have a nice holiday season. I've done nothing to deserve the way you've talked to me. There's no place for that on this board. No need to respond to me, you've been marked IGNORE.
Two things. One is that when you come here with an issue towards a seller (many experienced sellers and dealers here, I dig it) expect to be questioned in all directions. Otherwise, keep it to yourself. This is a forum.
Secondly, try to avoid being overly sensitive. It will allow you the learned ability to listen to many of our experienced members here.
Uhhh. The OP is one of the "experienced members here."
The respondent in question stopped discussing the issue/question at hand some time ago and started making it personal. That can happen sometimes but when it does the focus needs to be redirected.
Updated in first post.
Go ahead and take you super slabbed designated, First Strike, MS70 coin you bought from some slick TV crook and see how much you get for your "collectable".
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Dahlonega Type Set-2008 PCGS Best Exhibited Set
I don't buy that crap. But in any case, let's turn it around. Why don't you walk into your local coin store and tell them you want 1996 SEs at bullion value.
You could have when they first came out. Well maybe $2 over spot.
Hoard the keys.
What about the ones that circulated as legal tender in the day, but are now bullion only coins and the series that you collect stratles both circulated and non-circulated?
My kid and I embarked on an ASE quest for the Dansco and got the 1996 ASE in the raw for 60$ last year.
It was right around the time when the silver prices had spiked like crazy and most 1 oz. silver bars were selling for upwards of 35 bucks on eBay. I thought it was not that too bad of a score!!!
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/quarters/PCGS-2020-quarter-quest/album/247091
And 1909SVDB cents only cost one cent in 1909.
And this is why I don't pay premiums on modern items such as ASE's or AGE's... I steer clear unless near metal content value. Nearly every example gets slabbed/saved. Purchased and stacked a bunch of modern US Commemorative gold at melt before the run-up in gold but was purchasing as "bullion" at the time. I'll purchase pre-1933 gold all day over these over-priced items when large premiums get added on.
Mark