1996 wide am Lincoln cent

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I found a 1996 wide am from a bank roll in Lagrange GA. I need help with identifying and there after. Fellow Numismatic friends Lmk

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  • NILESLAVE
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    Lol how do I get my photo's on here. Damn I feel old

  • jesbroken
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    Welcome to the forum. Copy your photo and paste in your post.
    Jim


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  • MsMorrisine
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    Drag and drop works

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  • NILESLAVE
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    357626103684255

  • jmlanzaf
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    @NILESLAVE said:
    357626103684255

    What is this number?

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  • NILESLAVE
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    I tried to copy it but I'm only phone yall. Be gentle

  • jesbroken
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    I am not aware of different width AM's on the 1996. Here are two comparisons and they appear to be the same.
    Jim


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  • DCW
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    Just click this button and choose your photo.

    The 1996 Wide AM has never been found. Years ago, Billy Crawford announced he had one, and then when it was to be published, he told the world it had been stolen.
    I dont think one exists, but you never know.

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  • NILESLAVE
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    @NILESLAVE said:357626103684255
    Lol how do I get my photo's on here. Damn

  • MsMorrisine
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    @NILESLAVE said:

    @NILESLAVE said:357626103684255
    Lol how do I get my photo's on here. Damn

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1063756/posting-pics-from-a-phone

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  • Coinscratch
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    @DCW said:
    Just click this button and choose your photo.

    The 1996 Wide AM has never been found. Years ago, Billy Crawford announced he had one, and then when it was to be published, he told the world it had been stolen.
    I dont think one exists, but you never know.

    Now you tell me….I’ve only checked the 96 for ddo. Thanks!

  • mr1931S
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    Whenever I check rolls of pennies that I get from the bank, I always check the 1995's for a DDO. Never heard of 1996 DDO before this thread.

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    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

  • Steven59
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    Congrats - you found a normal Lincoln cent - WAM's are from 1998-1999-2000 - but who knows - Have fun and keep looking

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  • NILESLAVE
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    What do yall think??

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    @NILESLAVE said:
    What do yall think??

    A link is the only way I could get them on here

  • jmlanzaf
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    @NILESLAVE said:
    What do yall think??

    Looks normal to me.

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  • ricko
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    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

  • jesbroken
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    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • MsMorrisine
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    the "FG" is a "FAR FG"
    the left descender of the "M" is crooked towards the inside of the "M"

    and the easiest tell of all is the "A" in "STATES" is not centered.

    It is a close AM cent

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  • NILESLAVE
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    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @NILESLAVE said:

    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

    What is a "slight tilt of the memorial"? Are you talking about a die rotation. There is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY the memorial is tilted.

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  • moursund
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @NILESLAVE said:

    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

    What is a "slight tilt of the memorial"? Are you talking about a die rotation. There is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY the memorial is tilted.

    ... well, there was an earthquake a few years ago that damaged the Washington Monument... :wink:

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  • NILESLAVE
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    @moursund said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @NILESLAVE said:

    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

    What is a "slight tilt of the memorial"? Are you talking about a die rotation. There is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY the memorial is tilted.

    ... well, there was an earthquake a few years ago that damaged the Washington Monument... :wink:

    https://www.facebook.com/stories/1850812615008723/UzpfSVNDOjYwOTMwMzgzMzUyMzI3MQ==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink

  • NILESLAVE
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    @NILESLAVE said:

    @moursund said:

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    @NILESLAVE said:

    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

    What is a "slight tilt of the memorial"? Are you talking about a die rotation. There is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY the memorial is tilted.

    ... well, there was an earthquake a few years ago that damaged the Washington Monument... :wink:

    https://www.facebook.com/stories/1850812615008723/UzpfSVNDOjYwOTMwMzgzMzUyMzI3MQ==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink

    1996 close and mine

  • moursund
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    @NILESLAVE said:

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    @NILESLAVE said:

    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

    What is a "slight tilt of the memorial"? Are you talking about a die rotation. There is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY the memorial is tilted.

    ... well, there was an earthquake a few years ago that damaged the Washington Monument... :wink:

    https://www.facebook.com/stories/1850812615008723/UzpfSVNDOjYwOTMwMzgzMzUyMzI3MQ==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink

    i don't know what is in all of those facebook links. No facebook account, me.

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  • NILESLAVE
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    @NILESLAVE said:

    @NILESLAVE said:

    @moursund said:

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    @NILESLAVE said:

    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

    What is a "slight tilt of the memorial"? Are you talking about a die rotation. There is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY the memorial is tilted.

    ... well, there was an earthquake a few years ago that damaged the Washington Monument... :wink:

    https://www.facebook.com/stories/1850812615008723/UzpfSVNDOjYwOTMwMzgzMzUyMzI3MQ==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink

    1996 close and mine

    https://www.facebook.com/stories/1850812615008723/UzpfSVNDOjY1MTczMzM0OTUxNzU1Ng==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink

  • NILESLAVE
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    @NILESLAVE said:

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    @moursund said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @NILESLAVE said:

    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

    What is a "slight tilt of the memorial"? Are you talking about a die rotation. There is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY the memorial is tilted.

    ... well, there was an earthquake a few years ago that damaged the Washington Monument... :wink:

    https://www.facebook.com/stories/1850812615008723/UzpfSVNDOjYwOTMwMzgzMzUyMzI3MQ==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink

    1996 close and mine

    https://www.facebook.com/stories/1850812615008723/UzpfSVNDOjY1MTczMzM0OTUxNzU1Ng==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink

    Front view

  • NILESLAVE
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    @moursund said:

    @NILESLAVE said:

    @moursund said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @NILESLAVE said:

    @ricko said:
    @NILESLAVE... Welcome aboard. The picture is quite small... However, you can copy and paste to this thread, or drag and drop on a computer. Try adding a picture here, and also a comparative 1996 close AM... Cheers, RickO

    OK bro. I'll show you if I can get a better close up. It also has the strike through and slight tilt of the memorial building.

    What is a "slight tilt of the memorial"? Are you talking about a die rotation. There is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY the memorial is tilted.

    ... well, there was an earthquake a few years ago that damaged the Washington Monument... :wink:

    https://www.facebook.com/stories/1850812615008723/UzpfSVNDOjYwOTMwMzgzMzUyMzI3MQ==/?view_single=1&source=shared_permalink

    For Some reason, I can't

    i don't know what is in all of those facebook links. No facebook account, me just paste the pictures. 😆

  • MsMorrisine
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    @NILESLAVE said:
    just paste the pictures. 😆

    Exactly.

    Just go ahead and copy the image from there and hit paste here.

    I also refuse to use facebook.

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  • NILESLAVE
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    My bad yall, kinda got pics all at once. Still the new guy homies

  • moursund
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    It does look like the "AM" on these 2 pennies are different... What do you think, Forum Wallas?

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  • MsMorrisine
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    As previously stated, there is some issue with the left leg of the M.

    The other markers - Far FG, no serifs on G in FG, and the uncentered A in STATES all confirm this is a normal Close AM with some anomaly at the AM

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  • moursund
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    As previously stated, there is some issue with the left leg of the M.

    The other markers - Far FG, no serifs on G in FG, and the uncentered A in STATES all confirm this is a normal Close AM with some anomaly at the AM

    Thanks! I lost track of what had been pointed out or not, because of the baffling variety and various quality of the photos, and zillions of links to Facebook... 🙄

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  • Steven59
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    IT's NOT a WAM - Jesus Christ - what is it gonna take?????????????????

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  • NILESLAVE
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    I figured this shiz out fellas. (Pictures and all). This one really looks like it if you hold it man

  • Oldhoopster
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    The following site lists the characteristics. You should be able to easily see that it is not the same as the WAM. Notice that the leg on the A on your coin appears shorter than normal. Probably due to a hit or other type of damage (the coin is showing signs of zinc rot)

    http://lincolncentresource.com/wideams.html

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  • moursund
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    @NILESLAVE said:
    I figured this shiz out fellas. (Pictures and all). This one really looks like it if you hold it man

    I think most here have concluded you are trolling. Whatever.

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  • lcutler
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    Clearly a close AM. It doesn't matter if the M is touching the A or if there is a little space, the M has to be centered between the A and the E for it to be a wide AM. If it is closer to the A than the E then it is a close AM.

  • ricko
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    Definitely not a wide AM variety. Thanks for the pictures... Cheers, RickO

  • Snowman24
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    Looks like a close AM but I heard 1996 wide AM do or did exist.

    Bill Crawford said he found one about 10 years ago but I read that it was stolen with other coins after a coin show. Supposedly the crooks followed him with a tracker and stole the coins when he stopped somewhere, Here is an article about the 96 wide AM. Is Billy Crawford still alive, haven't seen much from him in a long time ?

    lincolncentresource.com/Featured/1996WideAM.html

  • AndrewB
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    What are your thoughts on this? I keep going back and forth on it…! I have not taken it anywhere for a second opinion.



  • Coinscratch
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    @AndrewB said:
    What are your thoughts on this? I keep going back and forth on it…! I have not taken it anywhere for a second opinion.



    Look at the initials FG, this is a close AM example even though there is a spread between the A&M.

  • AndrewB
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    @Coinscratch exactly why I keep going back and forth on it. Appreciate the feedback.

  • DCW
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    Yep, wide AM=close FG

    1996 Wide AM cent does NOT exist by the way, at least none have been verifiably examined. The "discovery" was prematurely announced, and the researcher soon announced that the coin had been "stolen."
    A shame. Maybe?

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