Will it straight grade ?
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Not my coin. I was going to bid on it but I am not familiar with how tight/loose TPGs are being with toning now so I didn't. Even if I did I dont think I would have went as high as the winner did on this coin...
But what say you... do you think it will straight grade ?
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I think it’s questionable. The area that most concerns me is actually the little bit of toning on the reverse, which looks quite unnatural. The obverse has areas of concern too, like the top right, which doesn’t look like a natural progression. That said, it’s not so blatant (and toned Peace Dollars often look AT to me) that I would give it maybe a 40% chance of a straight grade?
It would not if I were the grader...
But, I might get over ruled... Cheers, RickO
looking at sellers other pictures, they show luster if they got it. over dipped cleaned or XF
I think it may details grade due to the large scratches on the obverse.
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It doesn’t feel right to me. I’d call it questionable. I think PCGS would say the same.
Doubt it.
No way! Well I guess I shouldn't say no way but rather it grades or not that coin is AT and obviously so
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The rim on the obverse is correct but the progression inward with the purples is not. The reverse looks gassed, This will not straight grade. Unc Details - Questionable Color
The was my immediate thought as well. I would be very disappointed if this made it into a straight graded holder.
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In todays grading room in CA yes.
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It shouldn’t. Someone came a little too close with the blow torch on this one.
Not Sure. Looks nice though.
I would not over bid on it (would not offer over MS60 money) and wonder if it is even worth grading cost in terms of sending in.
It might make nice coin for somebody’s retail (cost +) raw collector coin binder of 2x2’s at shows, sell from table off bourse. Many times a good inventory of raw collector coins and PM (inexpensive material) can help on show costs.
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No not today
In my opinion, if sent to PCGS it would receive "91-QC" for questionable color.
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That’s being kind.
No.
I agree with Tom and think he was being prudent, not kind. It’s not like there aren’t occasional very surprising grading results in either direction. And that’s even when those doing the guessing/predicting are highly knowledgeable and have seen the coins in hand.
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The hue of purple on the reverse on a silver coin tells me to stay away from it.
I don't like the changes in the color gradient on the obverse, but that's not my area of expertise. I have a general idea of what does and does not work when it comes to toning on silver coins. If I have a question, I ask someone who knows more about than I do.
As a matter of first impression, I would not buy this coin, period.
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The color isn’t as bold or notably in the wrong shade as you often see with AT, but the splotchiness doesn’t sit well with me. As photographed I think it is questionable at best and would expect a no-grade.
Thanks for everyone's comments... like @Elcontador and @david3142 I was most concerned with the reverse.
My initial thought it was lightly cleaned and not BU but not AT. The most colorfully toned Peace $ usually are. So I thought why not bid...
Until I saw where the bidding was going -- it hammered for $315.00
Peace dollars with rainbow toning are almost always artificial - no grade questionable color for sure on this one. But it’s a 22 so who cares it’s not worth much anyway less than 66
100% QC imho.
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The seller is savvy enough to have attempted a straight grade himself (I'd think).
If it is sent to PCGS, it probably isn't its first trip there.
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IMHO it's AT. The toning doesn't sit on the fields and devices quite right. Especially where the devices meet the fields.
I don't think it would
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I don't like it and wouldn't buy it, straight-grade holder or not.
It's not graded for a reason. Monster toned (and I mean TRULY monster toned) peace dollars can go for $1k+++.
You'd think that it would be in plastic by now if it were authentic.
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Thats simply not true. Ive been collecting them for more than 20 yrs - I started when dealers would laugh at me for asking if they had any and try to redirect me towards the pretty Morgan toners... Ive bought dozens of raw rainbow toned Peace $ that were sold to me with no premium that later graded at PCGS and NGC.
I think that sentiment traces back to something David Hall once said in the 1980s.