Careful with eBay Certified

alefzero

Of course we all know that anyway. But here is one that I reported to both eBay and NGC minutes after it listed. The tag looks up just fine, but the fool who made the slab (presumably the zero feedback seller) failed to appreciate that NGC has the real coin on their lookup page, which also sports a nifty relative die rotation.

It looked wrong to me on two fronts. The first is the grade on the tag does not match expectation on the coin. The second is that it would be a new die pair as well. That is what actually got my attention. It is a fake.

Here is the lot. eBay will not remove it. NGC probably will not read my message until next week, but presumably before the 7-day auction ends.

https://ebay.com/itm/393760577897

Compare that to the NGC actual coin.

https://ngccoin.com/certlookup/3004119-004/40/

Maybe if more report it, the sale will get shut down and maybe the seller booted.

alefzero

Another from him. The number of spokes in the holder (3 vs 4) even differs.

https://ebay.com/itm/393759666583

https://ngccoin.com/certlookup/3559675-006/61/

alefzero

And another. Two different VAMs.

https://ebay.com/itm/393759716711

https://ngccoin.com/certlookup/399011-007/66/

MsMorrisine

If enough report it then it’ll probably go

The seller will still remain

There is a seller of a mix of genuine and counterfeit morgans that just won’t stop and eBay hasn’t naru’d them. (Dunno if they have any listed right now, the pics are so bad.)

alefzero

He is selling three high valued "certified" that are ALL wrong. One could have been a bad purchase he inadvertently made. All of them and zero feedback is beyond fishy.

1madman

If you guys could also help and report this fake gold eagle in a fake pcgs slab too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324922119655?hash=item4ba6de15e7:g:hOIAAOSw8Udhq9YO

ifthevamzarockin

Reported 4 from the OP plus 1 from madman.

MsMorrisine

@1madman said:
If you guys could also help and report this fake gold eagle in a fake pcgs slab too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324922119655?hash=item4ba6de15e7:g:hOIAAOSw8Udhq9YO

yeah.... how counterfeit is it?

VERY counterfeit

IMPORTANT NOTICE
Certification number 26422139 has been temporarily DEACTIVATED as a precaution due to its unauthorized use on a known counterfeit circulating the market. Please contact PCGS customer Service at info@pcgs.com if you own the item or call (800) 447-8848 for further information.

https://www.pcgs.com/cert

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https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=324922119655&toolid=20001&mkcid=1&campid=5338203720&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&customid=link&hash=item4ba6de15e7:g:hOIAAOSw8Udhq9YO&_ssn=talentis&_sac=1&_ipg=200&rt=nc

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https://feedback.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/talentis

MsMorrisine

@alefzero said:
Another from him. The number of spokes in the holder (3 vs 4) even differs.

https://ebay.com/itm/393759666583

https://ngccoin.com/certlookup/3559675-006/61/

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https://www.ebay.com/sch/ilovemyf_30/m.html?item=393759716711&toolid=20001&mkcid=1&campid=5338203720&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&customid=link&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

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https://m.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/ilovemyf_30?filter=feedback_page:RECEIVED_AS_SELLER

MsMorrisine

this is counterfeit too

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393763240215

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REAL

Note Detail At Mouth - Thinner Border - Corners Have a Sweeping Curve.

ifthevamzarockin

All of the OP sellers items have been removed, fake PCGS slab still active.

ricko

Listings (OP) have been pulled - good work, but a capture picture would help others learn. Cheers, RickO

WAYNEAS

Reported the PCGS coin as it was still active.
Wayne

derryb

Save this one:

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