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Date:11/14/2021
Offense: Lost/Stolen
Incident location: TRANSIT RI/SALT LAKE CITY UTAH
Investigating Agency: USPS
Details:
A USPS package being shipped from Rhode Island to Salt Lake City, UT has been
reported missing.
Stolen/Lost Coin:
1856 PCGS AU55 CAC #32898897 G$3
Anyone with information contact:
Doug Davis
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
817-723-7231
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Bummer. Besides the USPS, who are you working with? Is this insured?
Sucks.
Every and all relevant agencies have been informed on the missing coin. Please be on the lookout.
So sorry and good luck, seems like we hear more and more of this happening.
Jim
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Well.. hopefully it will be found... as the other recently reported shipment was found. Cheers, RickO
Wish you the best.
Wayne
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Billions of packages sent and received every day. But, I never hear of slippers or bras going missing, only coins/bullion.
bob
If this were the slippers or bras forum, there would probably be similar reports for those items.😉
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Is it possible there's a postal worker who has a Sigma metal analyzer and he's using it to find packages with gold coins in it?
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This is disconcerting. I am supposed to send in large amount of items to be graded and I have seen several posts like this. I hope you are reunited with your coin. I am so sorry.
Just be sure and use Registered Mail and insure for full value. I would also take pictures of what you are shipping. That's what saved my rear!
Oh no
! I hope it turns up.
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I have an open claim with the USPS for a registered mail package containing this:
Mailed on 10/22. No tracking update since the second day. I must say the USPS has been completely unhelpful and is now making me jump through hoops on the claim to make me prove its value.
There was a semi mail truck accident the other day somewhere around N.C. . Possible??
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Can someone articulate the benefit of registered mail vs. priority insured? Does it narrow down the search if the package goes missing or expedite the insurance claim?
Registered mail is much more secure at every step along the way, so yes, it should have a greater chance than Priority of being recovered. It's also far less likely to be misplaced or stolen in the first place. I don't know if USPS pays Registered claims faster than Priority, but I'd rather doubt it.
Oddly, it is what I am wearing right this minute.
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I understand that their are thieves out there and things get lost or taken, but how the post office handles claims is shameful. 60 days or more to resolve a claim and they make you the bad guy who has to prove his loss.
Ridiculous!
Happened to me earlier this year..maybe on bottom of parcels cart..My Mayflower gold was finally delivered 6 weeks late
Here was another report from Doug Davis of Numismatic Crime:
Date:11/25/2021
Offense: Lost/Stolen
Incident location: TRANSIT SCANNED MULTIPLE LOCATIONS
Investigating Agency: USPS
Details:
A packaged being shipped from Maine to California was received by the recipient
with the contents missing. The package had been cut and re-taped.
Stolen Coin:
1852-D NGC AU55 $5 gold coin
Anyone with information contact:
Doug Davis
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
817-723-7231
I bought a low-value coin on Ebay from an American seller and the seller shipped it to me in California on October 18.
After 30 days the seller and I agreed that the coin was lost and the seller refunded my money.
The coin arrived on November 24 after 38 days in the mail. (I then sent the seller the money)
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If you read Gerry Fortin's blog you will recognize this coin. Per the blog - Package was delivered to customer intact. Contents missing. Looks like a couple 1852-D coins have gone missing.
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I’m sure many people will consider this overly picky on my part, as well as unimportant. But I wouldn’t describe the package as being delivered “intact” when it had been cut and re-taped and the contents, removed. That aside, I’m terribly sorry for all of the owners and would-be purchasers of all these stolen coins we read about.
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I get your point. I meant the package appeared to have not been tampered with. Opened and taped back up. Not a punch a hole and grab job. The customer did not know something was wrong until an empty box was found.
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CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
I understand and sadly, there are a lot of thefts by that method.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I often wonder what is the tip off for these thefts. Is it outside labelled high value postage amount, address of the sender or the receiver?
I always appreciate USPS priority mail or registered with outside insurance and a disguised return address. Box within a box, made to resemble documents. My smartest seller uses his law firm header and return address.
Knock on wood.
I wondered about that as I wrote ANACS on my last package and mailed it out. Looked at the PCGS form and there too you put PCGS and the level of submission. Probably doesn't take long for people to figure out what is inside.
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$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
I had many coins from dealers over the years that were obviously higher value, heavy--but registered/insured. With pandemic and rampant thefts all around, some people think they can get away with it more than usually.
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Sorry for your continued losses Logger7, I hope you recover your item and those responsible are held accountable. Happy holidays.
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You wouldn't be able to identify the contents of a package with a Sigma MA. The more like possibility would be a metal detector. They can identify material content through the packaging.
Doug Davis sent this out today:
Date:11/30/2021
Offense: Lost/Stolen
Incident location: TRANSIT
Investigating Agency: FedEx
Details:
The contents of a package being shipped via FedEx from Florida to California has
been stolen. The package was last scanned in Memphis. However, FedEx advised
the box was empty.
Stolen Coins
1900-O $1 PCGS MS67 #43064000
1921-D $1 PCGS MS66+ #42802276
1904 $20 PCGS MS66+ #43018027
1915-S Pan-Pac G$1 PCGS MS67 #43044303
1919-D 50c PCGS MS64 #43019814
1937-D 5c PCGS MS67+ #43044838
1943-S 50c PCGS MS67 #43188536
1898-O $1 PCGS MS67 #14051927
1917-D 5c PCGS MS66 #43043864 Updated Cert Number
1838 $10 PCGS AU58+ #43264007
1917 25c Type 2 PCGS MS67+ #42626776
1916 5c PCGS MS67 #43044304
1924 $1 PCGS MS66+ #43064030
1893 $1 PCGS MS65+ #42679657
1802/1 $1 PCGS MS63 #35137905
Anyone with information contact:
Doug Davis
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
817-723-7231
Wow, that was a package full of great coins.
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$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
I am so sad for all the people this has happened to, and it seems to be increasing. Good Lord. What is wrong with people? Needless to say, I won't be sending any off for awhile. I will drive them to PCGS myself before I bother shipping any. It would seem that based on labeling, the thieves know what is in the packages. The entire mindset of "I want but don't have so I will take yours because I deserve it" disgusts me.
Apologies for the rant. I just do not understand people. I genuinely hope all of you get your items back and the culprits are caught. These aren't just "things" that are of potential high monetary value being stolen, they are meaningful items that people spend their time collecting, and, therefore, have greater value than just a friggin' dollar figure. Jerks. Ok. I'm done.
I understand the apprehension.
however, we get news from many members and DD @ numismatic crimes gets reports from the broad number of dealers.
what we have to remind ourselves is there are a vast number of packages to go through just fine. I would still submit to PCGS. you can consult with other submitters regarding the best way. As you are new and these will be your only submissions, perhaps registered mail with their $25000 max insurance is the way to go. I have private insurance and they require overnight or 2 day and they have about the same coverage limit. Registered mail is slow. Overnight/2-day let's you sleep easier.
and generally for those with a loss, they would rather have the coins back than the money
and I'll add
this is like watching the news and finding out about every aircraft accident all over the world. it's scary, but the reality is that there are hundreds to low thousands of flights per day that make it just fine.
When I send my coins to be graded I put in a box with brown fiber reinforced tape all over it. It goes registered mail and the post office stamps it all over the seams. If it’s been tampered with you can’t just put tape over it like it didn’t happen.
The limit on Registered Mail is now $50,000.00.
$50,000 max
@amwldcoin said: "Overnight/2-day let's you sleep easier."
For decades that's the only way I have shipped valuables and have 'never' had a package lost or stolen. Maybe just luck or maybe a good way.
simple and bluntly crooks look for packages with high amounts of insurance on them plus they look at the items in the package then they grab the package if they think it's worth their effort
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AUandAG said --- Billions of packages sent and received every day. But, I never hear of slippers or bras going missing, only coins/bullion.
MFeld replied --- If this were the slippers or bras forum, there would probably be similar reports for those items.
wow, you won't believe this: I was just over at "Boots to Boobs" forum looking for some Christmas ideas for my wife and some nut is complaining about a late order of his, "Billions of packages sent and received every day. But, I never hear of coins/bullion going missing, only slippers or bras."
somebody named MFelT retorted and directed me here!! what a small world it is.
I company that I do mail order business with has advised me that 6 out of their previous 12 FEDEX shipments have been tampered with at the Memphis hub.
Be advised.