NEWP & GTG! 1806 Draped Bust Quarter *GRADE POSTED*
Kliao
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Went to my local coin show today came home with this. Nice dark grey overall look.
I believe this to be a 1806 B-3 R-1. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Let me know what you guys think of the coin and what grade it got.
The scratches on the top right of the coin are on the holder and not the coin. Including the one just above her eye to the star.
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Interesting strike. One side is bold while the other side is almost non-existent. I will toss out a G4 guess.
G6
Congratulations! That's a fairly nice looking, wholesome coin. I'm with Batman ... looks in the G4 area
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First try on a DBQ - weird missing stars but 8
G6... nice!
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My first impression is 8
Mr_Spud
Overall looks wholesome and original. I’ll also go with G6.
VG8, maybe G6. I like the original color.
6
Tom
fun to collect coins in this grade range. for sure like that hue (gunmetal grey).
that "scratch" across the shoulder could possibly be from the detached lamination? @ k9. the line seems to umm line up.
i'll go with 6 for the missing rims, rim dings and flan defect. nice pics and presentation!
Nice piece. I'll go G6 as well.
I agree, G6. Very nice coin regardless.
Jim
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A forgivable VG08.
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Thanks all for the compliments. My first draped bust type coin and I'm very excited.
Will probably let it run till tonight or tomorrow and reveal it then.
Yes, I'm pretty sure that is a result of the lamination. If you look at the first picture, to the left of the "scratch", some of the detail of the lamination can barely be seen.
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First thought was G6. Maybe VG8 on a good day.
Congratulations on your acquisition. An 06 grade seems appropriate for the '06 piece.
G6. Looks original, which is a big positive.
VG 8
G04 very nice!
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I think AG3-G4 is fair. The obverse lamination is interesting and fairly large. These draped bust quarters are a lot of fun! I believe it’s a Browning 4 variety but I don’t have the book handy.
G4 easy. Maybe G6. Depends how they were feeling that day!
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I see it as a G6. Nice looking!
The lamination is interesting but in hand, it just looks like a dark spot as it's very shallow. Would need a loupe and a closer look to determine it's a lamination.
I took a closer look at all the die pairings in coinfacts and varietyplus and I am pretty certain it is the B-3 die pair. B-3 and B-4 appear to have the same reverse die but a difference I noticed on the obverse is that star 1 is pointing to different locations of liberty's hair. B-3 is pointing to the top lock while B-4 is pointing to the bottom lock. I don't have the book so I can't say for sure but that is my observation.
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VG8
One of them (B3 or b4) has the funky die damage at the shield above the left eagles claw but I can’t remember which one…and there may also be a remarriage in there also.
It is a B3, the rev die damage of the B4 is missing, consistent with the B3. A key marker is the T in LIBERTY but can't see it. The other marker is star 1 that nails it as B3 instead of B4. Below are VG10's for comparison of die markers.
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@spacehayduke Thanks! Very informational.
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What was the grade when it was in the NCG holder?
Very interesting spread of guesses. If a member posted 2 grades, I counted both.
1 - AG-3
5 - G-4
13 - G-6
7 - VG-8
NGC called it a G-4.
As @batman23 pointed out, the uneven strike on the right vs left side of the coin could have caused it to grade lower and what most members thought.
Very happy with my first draped bust type and overall look of the coin. Thanks guys!
Some slab shots I got:
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6 here.
I bought it yesterday in the NGC holder and it’ll stay in there for the time being. Not looking to spend a whole bunch on crossing my coins to PCGS.
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I was going to guess a VG.
They were tough that day
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LOL! Ever since NGC attacked PCGS for grade inflation they have been boning their customers by trying to change the grading standards back to the old Brown + Dunn line drawings IMHO! They have made me a lot of money by under grading coins. Never thought I would be a crack out guy, but they make it impossible not to be. Heck I even sell them sometimes in their holder for the next grade up and to very satisfied customers!
Edit to add...this is mainly on circ stuff....they are still lax IMHO from mid AU and up.
Yup, they are being tough, and so has ANACS been tough lately
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If gradeflation is being turned back it is good for the hobby.
Gradeflation, IMHO was the 1st real advance in coin prices I witnessed. I remember selling Buffalo Nickels with 2 grades...old and new school. Kindda hard to take it back since it has been around awhile.
Does anyone else find top-posting really annoying?
What is top-posting?
Posting on TOP of the quoted text, as you always do. The reason it's considered bad form is because it disrupts the flow of reading a thread by making the reader skip over your response to get context and then come back up to read your response. Not trying to be a d**k, but just genuinely wondered if anyone else found it annoying.
Sorry to derail the thread...
LOL! I'm the opposite and would rather folks post it on the top. I don't need to plow through the dribble I've already read. Of course it might be wise for those who like to post out of context who haven't read the entire thread!
The fact that 99% of members here do not top-post should tell you what 99% of us prefer. Since we are the ones who have to read your "dribble" (LOL), maybe you could be considerate of the vast majority. Yeah right, and monkeys might fly outta my...
I'm out.
Great looking Quarter @Kliao , I really like the strength of that heraldic eagle reverse.
It's all about what the people want...
Thanks Luke! I personally was a little surprised when I flipped over the coin and saw the stronger and slightly higher grade reverse.
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All I can say is block me! Especially if you think all I post is dribble!
PS Maybe others just go with the default...I would rather see the new before the old. Perhaps that's why @HeatherBoyd won't address the bug I pointed out...to punish me and make me scroll through all the old posts to get to the new!
Nice quarter!
Late to the game... again... (I am mainly a morning forum reader).... But that is a nice old coin and I would see it as a 4 or, in hand, maybe a 6... Cheers, RickO
Thanks @ricko & @Wahoo554
While browsing Heritage's sold archives of 1806 G4 quarters, I actually found my exact coin sold there just over 2 years ago. I some how recognized it browsing though.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1806-25c-good-4-ngc-ngc-census-30-334-pcgs-population-90-838-good-4-mintage-206-124-pcgs-5314-/a/131942-25179.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
I think these picture came out pretty well. Still very excited if you can't already tell.
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@Kliao ... I like those pictures even more. You have done well. Cheers, RickO