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What's your biggest hope for the 2022 Morgan and Peace Dollars?

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

I'm hoping for no 90 second sell outs!

24 hours, or even 1 hour, is good enough for me :)

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 9:14AM

    I hope I remain strong. I consider their treatment of their customers to be outrageous and their roll out of a backordered poor quality product an insult.
    I hope I remember and stop buying as I’ve stated. Buffalo nickels, d.Carr , Ron Landis and others here I come. 🤨

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope their value as graded coins drops like a rock. It's just another mint gimmick IMO.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 10:30AM

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    I hope their value as graded coins drops like a rock. It's just another mint gimmick IMO.

    Just like classic commems :'(

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That they get melted along with the 2021's and the silver used to make actual dollar coins not commems.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 10:39AM

    @coinbuf said:
    That they get melted along with the 2021's and the silver used to make actual dollar coins not commems.

    Dollars are manganese alloy now, so no silver in actual dollar coins, but it can be used in socks!

  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    That they get melted along with the 2021's and the silver used to make actual dollar coins not commems.

    Except they are not commemoratives

  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would love them in the original surface strike

  • olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 857 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 11:42AM

    My hope is I can finally get a DCAM Proof Morgan Dollar that I can actually afford. No collector of Morgans can afford DCAM or even CAM proofs, look at how much they cost.

    Morgan DCAM
    https://www.legendnumismatics.com/product/1898-1-dollar-morgan-pcgs-pr66dcam-cac/

    Morgan CAM
    https://www.legendnumismatics.com/product/1890-1-dollar-morgan-pcgs-pr66cam-cac-2/

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope they have a more reasonable price. Like $45 or $50.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope they do not make bullion versions as they are investigating doing

    the finish.. most likely... will be the same as the 2021 and will effectively turn the 2021s into bullion coins.

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  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope for no preorder window like this year…

    I like the anti-bot implements the mint did this year to help get coins in the hands of more collectors.

    Since it was announced that there will be a 2022 Morgan and Peace, I would like to see …

    Only a proof editions of each
    Mintage of 50,000
    Cost near $100
    And a single coin Household limit

    A reproduction of the bullion pieces in quantity would indeed have a deleterious effect on the price of raw 2021s IMO, perhaps even driving them to issue price on the secondary market.

    It's all about what the people want...

  • HoldTheMayoHoldTheMayo Posts: 130 ✭✭✭

    I hope my 2x 1922-S MS65’s triple in price

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope to see not too many threads discussing them.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too late for that and it’s not even 2022

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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My hopes:

    DCAM proof Morgan

    Matte proof Peace

    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Mint gets better QC..

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 1:44PM

    My hope is the mint never again makes a coin with false mint marks. It's like they're counterfeiting their own coins. Another genius at the helm.

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  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Che_Grapes said:

    @coinbuf said:
    That they get melted along with the 2021's and the silver used to make actual dollar coins not commems.

    Except they are not commemoratives

    Read the legislation that authorized them. They are commemoratives.

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  • HoldTheMayoHoldTheMayo Posts: 130 ✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 2:26PM

    @pmh1nic said:

    @Che_Grapes said:

    @coinbuf said:
    That they get melted along with the 2021's and the silver used to make actual dollar coins not commems.

    Except they are not commemoratives

    Read the legislation that authorized them. They are commemoratives.

    IMO they are commemorative BUT the legislation never called them commemorative, the bill was called the "Silver Dollar Coin Anniversary Act". You can read the entire H.R 6192 bill and it never explicitly says commemorative but mentions "anniversary" quite a few times. Also the Mint can only have 2x commemorative coin programs per year and they do not include the 2021 Peace/Morgan in that literature. IMO the mint wanted to play Switzerland and let collectors/dealers and the market decide if they are/arent commemorative .

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking forward buying them close to melt.

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  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,249 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 3:26PM

    That they do not sell them until they have minted them

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HoldTheMayo said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    @Che_Grapes said:

    @coinbuf said:
    That they get melted along with the 2021's and the silver used to make actual dollar coins not commems.

    Except they are not commemoratives

    Read the legislation that authorized them. They are commemoratives.

    IMO they are commemorative BUT the legislation never called them commemorative, the bill was called the "Silver Dollar Coin Anniversary Act". You can read the entire H.R 6192 bill and it never explicitly says commemorative but mentions "anniversary" quite a few times. Also the Mint can only have 2x commemorative coin programs per year and they do not include the 2021 Peace/Morgan in that literature. IMO the mint wanted to play Switzerland and let collectors/dealers and the market decide if they are/arent commemorative .

    From the legislation...

    "(6) These iconic silver dollars with vastly different representations of Lady Liberty and the American Eagle, reflect a changing of the guard in 1921 in the United States and therefore on the 100th anniversary must begin to be MINTED AGAIN TO COMMEMORATE this significant evolution of American freedom."

    My understanding based on the language used that these coins are commemoratives.

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  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Proofs of both.

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Best hope is that they dont make em, will kill the current issues. If they stay with proofs, that may help stabilize the 2021's

  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Proofs only, mint to demand, 5 day ordering window. No sales report issued until after the order window closes, no returns (unless grossly damaged or defective.

    Let’s the chips fall where they fall

    Martin

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    I hope they do not make bullion versions as they are investigating doing

    I hope they do make bullion versions. I would like to see a U.S. bullion coin that is closer to the diameter of most other countries' silver bullion coins.

    If the 2022's and up are minted to demand, there's a good chance that the 2021's will become the keys to the modern Morgan/Peace dollar series.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 7:14PM

    @Overdate said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    I hope they do not make bullion versions as they are investigating doing

    I hope they do make bullion versions. I would like to see a U.S. bullion coin that is closer to the diameter of most other countries' silver bullion coins.

    If the 2022's and up are minted to demand, there's a good chance that the 2021's will become the keys to the modern Morgan/Peace dollar series.

    Perhaps for a while, but at their mintages, something will come along with much lower mintage, like the 1995-W ASE.

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @Overdate said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    I hope they do not make bullion versions as they are investigating doing

    I hope they do make bullion versions. I would like to see a U.S. bullion coin that is closer to the diameter of most other countries' silver bullion coins.

    If the 2022's and up are minted to demand, there's a good chance that the 2021's will become the keys to the modern Morgan/Peace dollar series.

    For a while, but at their mintages, something will come along with less, like the 1995-W ASE.

    The 1995-W Silver Eagle was not minted to true demand. It was only available as a "freebee" for collectors who bought the 1995 Gold Eagle 4-coin proof set for $995. If it had been available as a stand-alone coin like other Silver Eagle proofs of that time, many more of them would have been minted and sold to collectors.

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 15, 2021 8:05AM

    .

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2021 7:31PM

    @Overdate said:

    @Zoins said:

    @Overdate said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    I hope they do not make bullion versions as they are investigating doing

    I hope they do make bullion versions. I would like to see a U.S. bullion coin that is closer to the diameter of most other countries' silver bullion coins.

    If the 2022's and up are minted to demand, there's a good chance that the 2021's will become the keys to the modern Morgan/Peace dollar series.

    For a while, but at their mintages, something will come along with less, like the 1995-W ASE.

    The 1995-W Silver Eagle was not minted to true demand. It was only available as a "freebee" for collectors who bought the 1995 Gold Eagle 4-coin proof set for $995. If it had been available as a stand-alone coin like other Silver Eagle proofs of that time, many more of them would have been minted and sold to collectors.

    I'm not debating how they were issued. I'm just saying something, for some reason, will come along with a lower mintage than the 2021 issues, which have super high mintages.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would like to see them do a high relief Peace dollar... and with DCAM proof finish.... Would be a coin I would definitely buy. Cheers, RickO

  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope that they end world hunger and stop global warming.

  • I agree that they should do away with the presale and only put them for sale when and only when they actually have them on hand. That was by far the biggest disaster of 2021.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @originalsandman said:
    I agree that they should do away with the presale and only put them for sale when and only when they actually have them on hand. That was by far the biggest disaster of 2021.

    Yes sir. And running a close second is quality control. And finally how about returning to the clam shell ogp. Show a little pride with the price increase these cardboard boxes are junk 😉

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Melt value

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @golden said:
    That they don't make them.

    I don't want them. I won't buy them in any case. There are far more interesting coins that I could buy.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @golden said:
    That they don't make them.

    I don't want them. I won't buy them in any case. There are far more interesting coins that I could buy.

    If you are interested in other coins and people are spending their money on these, is it a good thing for you due to lower competition where you are collecting?

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @BillJones said:

    @golden said:
    That they don't make them.

    I don't want them. I won't buy them in any case. There are far more interesting coins that I could buy.

    If you are interested in other coins and people are spending their money on these, is it a good thing for you due to lower competition where you are collecting?

    Right now ancient imperial Roman and mostly hammered British.

    Most of the modern stuff bores me to tears. I only bought the 2021 Peace Dollar because I wanted to see the design as it was intended, fully struck. I was not disappointed, but I don't need another one.


    Here is an average struck 1921 Peace dollar.


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  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No hopes, no interest. If I had a hope, I guess it'd be that those who buy them from the mint are satisfied with the quality of what they get.

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  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That I never see any of them. There was no such thing as a 1922 Morgan Dollar. Label it bullion and then buyers won't be disappointed when the get poor quality.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll buy some. But I think the mint will make as many as possible with a two coin limit till the next day. I will not buy as much as I did on this 1st one. Need to see what they come out with to really make any big decisions.



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