A couple of Error coins - Comments welcome
keoj
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Back with a few more errors. Would love to get comments and opinions.....
1843 Cent - Double Stuck - Real or not real?
1972-D Quarter - What caused this?
1973-D Cent - Odd Split Planchet - Comments
keoj
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The 1943 cent looks to me like it was struck with false dies, there is far too much detail remaining from the original strike for that to have happened at the Mint.
The 1972-D quarter was damaged post-Mint, I couldn't tell you how but that is not something that would happen inside as part of the minting process.
It's not all bad news, though - I think that your 1973-D is a winner, it appears to have a partially detached lamination, sometimes referred to as a clamshell. That is a genuine planchet error, worth a small premium. FYI, a "split planchet" is a little different, and typically would have a crack running face to face through the planchet.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
1943 looks like it was stuck from false dies.
1972 looks like some kind of striking error at the mint.
1973 looks like a defective planchet.
Thanks team. These came from an incredibly mixed group of coins that I helping to disposition. There are some really nice coins and I have gotten some great help from a forum member. He suggested that I post a few of the odder ones to get some consensus. The 72 is quite vexing. I have no idea how it was made but it clear that it took some significant pressure to form. It feels like mint to me.
I vote fake error on the 1943, PMD on the quarter, and planchet defect on the 1973.
Here are my opinions:
1) The 1943 appears to be man-made
2) The 1972 is post-mint damage
3) The 1973, however, I am not certain about. It looks like lamination, but with the damage on the reverse, it leads me to think it may be man-made, too. Don't know how, just my opinion.
The quarter has one side of the correct diameter and image.
Therefore the reverse is of the correct diameter.
The problem is the details around the rim are distorted.
What in the mint could have done that? Nothing.
Counterfeit dies
Damaged
Damaged
The first cent is a post mint fake error.
The second is PMD
The third, at first thought it was a planchet issue, until I saw the reverse... then I conclude PMD.
Cheers, RickO
Fred,
Why did you conclude the 1973-D cent is damaged and not a lamination? I see the damage on the reverse beneath the lamination, but I don't see how that could be related to what is shown on the obverse.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Sean – I did not enlarge the photo of the cent when I made my comment – my error
Enlarging it now , it looks like a cracked planchet due to some improper metal mixture/lamination issues
The '43 is a man made fake.
The '73 d quarter is post mint damaged, possibly a heavy buffing around the edges.
On the '73 d cent, I would like to see a picture of the coins edge at the site of the split so I offer no answer on it at this time.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
And while we're at it, the title of the thread is wrong. It says "a couple of error coins", but you posted three, which would be "a few".
Anywho, the first cent is a good example of a faked error, and the third cent appears to be a dramatic planchet defect.
I _think_I know- what are false dies?__
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