New error that just came in.

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Just got a new error that just came in. Surprised that it didn't details grade due to the rim issue on the obverse, but nevertheless it's a neat error it I thought.

Anacs calls it a full brockage wheat cent.

FredWeinberg

Nice brockage - it's an early stage, too.

braddick

Fred, with the rim issue, would this one cross with PCGS?

WAYNEAS

Nice pick up @COINS MAKE CENTS.
Wayne

FredWeinberg

Good question - I don't do the grading for errors,
but based on what I can see, I'd say there's a good
chance it would be a 'damage/rim' tag.

Sometimes the striking effect will leave a finned
rim or other small anomaly - the rim does looks
damaged/flattened, but it could be the angle or
lighting issue in the photo.

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Closer images of the rim issue

gumby1234

Nice error. I dont know the value. Is it worth getting reslabbed? It may cross. Damage on error coins is expected on many types of errors. In any case it is pretty cool.

FredWeinberg

The rim ding at 10:30 Rev. might 'details/damage' it,
but interestingly, the photo just above does now
show a finned rim, which is not damage.

joeykoins

Awesome!

What a beautiful specimen!

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@FredWeinberg I was curious if it is normal for a brockage to be double struck? It looks like there's 2 "one cent" visible.

I can provide more pictures if someone tells me what angle and what area they want pictures of

LanceNewmanOCC

so either this piece was stuck to the anvil die while more than 1 cent struck it or
a coin was struck through it that was already struck twice or
i forgot the other "or" while typing this out doh

Mr Lindy

Double brockage, 2nd expanded ONE CENT at 45 degree angle Ha ! Beat me to it !!!

CaptHenway

I immediately noticed the doubled image and wondered why that was not mentioned.

seanq

@CaptHenway said:
I immediately noticed the doubled image and wondered why that was not mentioned.

I am struggling to come up with how this could happen, is the progression something like this?

• planchet is struck normally, sticks to obverse die (die cap);
• die cap strikes at least two more planchets, expanding and thinning with each strike;
• die cap then strikes the reverse die again, but the impression is weaker because the cap has thinned;
• die cap strikes another planchet, creating this coin.

So the die cap was double struck, and this coin was the first impression after the second strike. Sound about right?

Sean Reynolds

CaptHenway

@seanq said:

@CaptHenway said:
I immediately noticed the doubled image and wondered why that was not mentioned.

I am struggling to come up with how this could happen, is the progression something like this?

• planchet is struck normally, sticks to obverse die (die cap);
• die cap strikes at least two more planchets, expanding and thinning with each strike;
• die cap then strikes the reverse die again, but the impression is weaker because the cap has thinned;
• die cap strikes another planchet, creating this coin.

So the die cap was double struck, and this coin was the first impression after the second strike. Sound about right?

Sean Reynolds

It must have come off of the hammer (obverse) die to have rotated. Other than that I think you've got it.

Steven59

Excellent error coin!

jesbroken

That is too cool. Other than if it is extremely valuable, I wouldn't bother getting it crossed. I think as long as a buyer knows it is real the holder wouldn't be as big a deal. Thanks for sharing. I think the photo showing the fin protruding would allow it to cross and not be considered damage, but again, why bother.

Jim

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I thought it was pretty neat. It came in with a whole bunch of other errors as well.

ricko

That is a remarkable error coin.... Thanks for all the great pictures. Cheers, RickO

Aotearoa

I'm not usually into errors but this is pretty cool.

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Just realized I never responded to this thread after I started it...... so does anyone know the correct "title" for this coins?

Double struck full brockage?
Full brockage with rotated brockage?

What do I call it? I mean obviously it's a full brockage but what about the double part? I can't find any other error coins to compare it to with the double part....

Type2

Very nice.👏🏼

Byers

Doesn’t look like damage.

Obviously it’s a rotated double struck brockage.

CaptHenway

How about “Doubled Brockage with rotation of cap between strikes?”
The more I look at this piece the more I appreciate how rare the type of error is because of the rotation of the cap between strikes.

seanq

@CaptHenway said:
How about “Doubled Brockage with rotation of cap between strikes?”
The more I look at this piece the more I appreciate how rare the type of error is because of the rotation of the cap between strikes.

"Doubled Brockage" implies the OP's coin was struck twice, where it was actually the die cap that created the brockage which was multi-struck. I would go with "full brockage by double struck, rotated die cap" if I were trying to fit it on a slab insert.

Sean Reynolds