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What is going on with this coin? Cleaned or PL?

Just came across this coin, and I am uterly confused by it. Is it cleaned or is it a pl? the pics make it seem to be too good to be true...
More experienced collectors, what are your thoughts?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284520534480?hash=item423ebed1d0:g:0kYAAOSwWldhiFNQ

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes, you can obtain clues, by viewing other items listed by the seller.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2021 4:04PM

    I am new at this, but the scratches in the field from and back make me lean to it having been cleaned at some point (not dipped). Could be wrong, but others will chime in.

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    Sometimes, you can obtain clues, by viewing other items listed by the seller.

    and sometimes, just a glance is all you need. smh :disappointed:

    cleaned fields with nice <cough, cough> "halo's" around the devices. Added frost too? Maybe.


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  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like both. Started out as a prooflike, then someone decided to clean it - it may have tarnished.
    Too bad - it was a nice dollar.

    thefinn
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pursuitofliberty said:

    @MFeld said:
    Sometimes, you can obtain clues, by viewing other items listed by the seller.

    and sometimes, just a glance is all you need. smh :disappointed:

    cleaned fields with nice <cough, cough> "halo's" around the devices. Added frost too? Maybe.

    And that, too.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2021 4:51PM

    That’s one of those “California Proofs”. That’s not a good thing

    Mr_Spud

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2021 5:07PM

    Appears to have been doctored to appear more captivating to beginners in silver dollar collecting. Hairlines all over it. Hard pass for me.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a California Proof (as those are of better quality and more deceptive than the OP's coin).
    Altered- not that well either.
    The 1888 Morgan is a counterfeit.
    The other offers are either nefarious or of inconsequential collector appeal.

    peacockcoins

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That would be a pass for me.... and I like CC Morgans... (though not in the market for any now)... Cleaned and certainly not a proof as listing suggested. Cheers, RickO

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Next coin please 🙀

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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