1858 Flying Eagle Type Coin — Guess the Grade! **REVEALED**
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Bought this FE as my type set example earlier this year, and sent it into PCGS for reholdering and photography. The TrueView just posted this past week, so thought it might be fun to run a GTG. I'll post the results later today. Thoughts, comments, questions, and feedback on the coin are also welcome outside of guessing the grade. Happy Sunday all!
Edit: will extend the guessing until Monday as there's a decent variance in grades and some regulars that usually weigh in haven't commented yet
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Looks nice, I’m at 58 or 62.
I'll agree with AU58 or MS62. I don't like the soft strike on the eagle's beak and would not want the coin myself.
58
58ish
Exceptional no problem FE example.
MS63.
I'm thinking it's a 58. Here is one that's got the high leaf reverse which is a higher relief design therefore the strike doesn't tend to come up as well. I believe they modified the reverse to the low leaf design which has a lower relief and you don't see as many with the weak strike.
58 here.
64+
WAG 63 or 64. Nice-looking coin!
Looks to have a large scratch that extends from the 8 on the date to the eagle’s left wing.
Edit that to 58. Nice, but I think the beak is enough to keep it from MS.
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It has to be MS, no way an AU.
But I'll say 'Unc details'.
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63
That's my guess. And a weakly struck (LDS) MS 62 BN, to me.
MS63 - I've seen worse strikes in 64 holders!
Same here for my grade guess and about the strike.
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I think I see a weak strike.
Die crack through the 8?
MS64
I think this FE Cent may fool all here and be higher than any guess. I think the wear being seen by many is nonexistent. Just my opinion so I will be interested to hear the grade.
Jim
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So what’s your guess?
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Looks slightly off-center on the obverse
FYI I will extend the guessing until Monday as there's a decent variance in grades and some regulars that usually weigh in haven't commented yet
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I can't see any signs of wear, but the luster doesn't seem to be very strong from that TV. MS63?
I like the coin, go with MS-63 but understand the 62's. It seems to come down to how much of a deduction there should be for the scratch.
That looks to me to be a scratch rather than a die crack.
Looks like a crooked fault crack to me.
The 8 has an odd look to it though.
If that’s only a 58 I’d be surprised. I’d love to find a 58 that looked like that for my collection
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So what’s your guess?
Obviously not with the crowd, but I feel a minimum 65.
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I think it's Mint state but the strike makes it look as if there's wear, especially on the reverse.
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I’m in the MS camp
It's clearly not a scratch...MS 63
I'm inclined towards 58 due to various details. Peace Roy
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If it were not for the long depression or scratch that runs down through the “8” in the date, my guess would go as high as MS-66. We can’t see the luster in the photo, but if it’s all there, it’s a higher grade coin.
The weakness on the Eagle’s head is from the strike. The minor flatness on the breast feathers is probably the same problem. If the line that runs through the “8” is post mint damage, it’s a “details” grade coin. If it’s a planchet defect that didn’t get struck out at the time of manufacture, it limits the “market grade” to MS-63. All of this shows how limited you are when you are grading from photos in general and one set of photos in particular.
The line on the Eagle (and extending through the 8) Appears to be a crack - it looks like it is raised on the Eagle...So perhaps a planchet defect...I would go with MS63 or if PMD, then details. Cheers, RickO
Very nice.
I'd go 63, even with the lamination
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Interesting coin. My guess is net graded 62.
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Guessing 63
GRADE REVEALED BELOW
I wrote a much longer comment but unfortunately it was flagged for deletion (probably because I tagged a bunch of forumites in it), and I'm at work and don't have time to rewrite it.
Here's the distribution of guesses — if folks guessed multiple grades, I took the lower:
The coin is in an AU58 holder. For those that care, it's accompanied by a green CAC sticker.
Cheers all!
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yeah... I saw the original results.
there has to be a bug.
it sometimes flags edits. I'd use an addendum post with the original quoted into it
Nice coin!
Oh well, still a beautiful example for your set. Just goes to show that 15 years ago when Mark told me I shouldn't buy copper until I learned to better grade them, still holds true.
Jim
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So this appears to be an MS-63 coin with enough rub/wear to drop it to an AU grade. A lot of agreement on the surface condition with differing judgements on rub.