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In a continuing effort to slim down my collection, I am selling another group of the Mexican minors in the Stacks Bowers October internet-only sale. I have been collecting these for 25 years and many are from previous great collections (not generally noted by Stacks). I will add some commentary next to each lot here where applicable. Most are comically underestimated and miscatalogued by Stacks. :o

If you are the least bit interested, please have a look. And if something strikes your fancy, make a bid! As of now, there are still many lots without any bids.

In case you don't know, Len Novotny assembled the finest and most complete collection of Mexican minors ever formed. It was mostly sold by Stacks in various sales in 2011. Many of the coins below come from his collection. I also purchased coins from the collection of Bill Porter. He was very quality-conscious and mainly purchased from Mike Dunigan, but occasionally from Dave Amey and others.

71447 MEXICO. 1/4 Real, 1803-Mo. Mexico City Mint. Charles IV. NGC AU-58. Ex. Bill Porter Collection (privately).
71459 MEXICO. 1/4 Real, 1813-Mo. Mexico City Mint. Ferdinand VII. NGC MS-64. Ex. Bill Porter Collection (privately).
71502 MEXICO. 8 Reales, 1891-Pi MR. San Luis Potosi Mint. PCGS MS-63.
71508 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1843-Ga MC. Guadalajara Mint. NGC VF-30. Formerly in a museum? (Inventory number in ink under cap.)
71509 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1840/30-Go PJ. Guanajuato Mint. NGC AU-55. Ex. Novotny Collection Sale (Stacks March 2011 Lot 8351).
71510 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1844-Go PM. Guanajuato Mint. NGC AU Details--Surface Hairlines.
71511 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1848-Go PM. Guanajuato Mint. NGC AU-58. Ex. Novotny Collection Sale (Stacks March 2011 Lot 8363).
71515 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1863/53-Go YF. Guanajuato Mint. PCGS AU-58. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately).
71518 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1869-Pi PS. San Luis Potosi Mint. NGC AU-58. Ex. Novotny Collection Sale (Stacks March 2011 Lot 8421).
71519 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1833/2-Zs OM. Zacatecas Mint. NGC EF-40. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately).
71521 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1863-Zs VL. Zacatecas Mint. NGC EF-45. Ex. Bill Porter Collection (privately).
71522 MEXICO. 4 Reales, 1869-Zs YH. Zacatecas Mint. NGC AU-55. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately).
71523 MEXICO. 2 Reales, 1838/7-Go PJ. Guanajuato Mint. NGC MS-65. Ex. Bill Porter Collection (privately).
71524 MEXICO. 2 Reales, 1868-Zs YH. Zacatecas Mint. NGC MS-64. Ex. Novotny Collection Sale (Stacks March 2011 Lot 8315).
71525 MEXICO. Real, 1827-Go JM. Guanajuato Mint. NGC G-6. S-B states this is the Novotny coin, but it is not. It is better than the Novotny coin! Ex. Gabriel Gomez, Mexico City.
71526 MEXICO. Real, 1868-Ho PR. Hermosillo Mint. NGC VF-30. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately).
71527 MEXICO. Real, 1850-Pi MC. San Luis Potosi Mint. NGC AU-55. Ex. @MrEureka.
71528 MEXICO. 1/2 Real, 1861-C PV. Culiacan Mint. NGC AU-58. Ex. Bill Porter Collection (privately).
71529 MEXICO. 1/2 Real, 1868-Go YF. Guanajuato Mint. PCGS MS-65+.
71530 MEXICO. 1/2 Real, 1831-Mo JM. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-63. Ex. Bill Porter Collection. Ex. Vernon Marshall Collection.
71531 MEXICO. 1/2 Real, 1841-Mo ML. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-62. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately). Recut Mo (Mo/Mo).
71532 MEXICO. 1/2 Real, 1853-Mo GC. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-64. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately).
71533 MEXICO. 1/4 Real (Quartilla), 1844-GC LR. Guadalupe y Calvo Mint. NGC VF-30. Extremely rare!
71534 MEXICO. 1/4 Real (Quartilla), 1843-Ga MC. Guadalajara Mint. NGC EF-40. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately).
71535 MEXICO. Duo of 1/4 Reales (Quartillas) (2 Pieces), 1862 & 1863. Mexico City Mint. Both NGC MS-62 Certified. The 1862 is ex. Novotny Collection (privately).
71536 MEXICO. Quartet of 1/4 Reales (Quartillas) (4 Pieces), 1842-50. Guanajuato Mint. All NGC or PCGS Certified. The 1842, 1844, & 1846 are ex. Novotny Collection (privately). The 1846-Go is also ex. Pittman. The 1850 is ex. Gabriel Gomez, Mexico City. The 1844-Go is very scarce.
71538 MEXICO. Quintet of Minors (5 Pieces), 1841-62. All NGC Certified. All ex. Novotny or Bill Porter Collections. The 1848-Go 2R is the finest known of this scarcer assayer (per Novotny, from whose collection it came).
71555 MEXICO. Trio of Minors (3 Pieces), 1886-1902. All ANACS or PCGS Certified.
71562 MEXICO. 50 Centavos, 1872-Go S. Guanajuato Mint. NGC MS-63. Ex. Eric P. Newman Collection.
71574 MEXICO. Duo of 50 Centavos (2 Pieces), 1870 & 1887. Zacatecas Mint. Both PCGS Certified.
71575 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1873-Cn P. Culiacan Mint. NGC VF-35. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately). Rare.
71576 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1888-Cn M. Culiacan Mint. NGC MS-62. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately). Finest or second finest known.
71579 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1888-Go R. Guanajuato Mint. NGC MS-64.
71580 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1889-Go R/Cn D. NGC MS-65. Ex. Bill Porter Collection (privately).
71581 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1890-Go R. Guanajuato Mint. NGC MS-64. Ex. Bill Porter Collection (privately). Ex. Jim Shipley.
71582 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1881/0-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-64. Ex. Novotny Collection Sale (Stacks March 2011 Lot 9112).
71583 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1884-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-65. Ex. Bill Porter (privately). Ex. Jim Shipley.
71584 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1885-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-63. Semi-PL.
71585 MEXICO. 25 Centavos, 1887-Pi R. San Luis Potosi Mint. NGC MS-62. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately). Pi/Zs mintmark.
71587 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1898-Cn M. Culiacan Mint. NGC MS-65. Ex. Novotny Collection Sale (Stacks March 2011 Lot 9009).
71588 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1902-Cn Q. Culiacan Mint. NGC MS-62.
71589 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1898-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-65.
71590 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1899-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-65.
71591 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1901-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-66.
71593 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1903-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-64.
71594 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1904-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-65.
71595 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1898-Zs Z. Zacatecas Mint. NGC MS-64.
71596 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1899-Zs Z. Zacatecas Mint. NGC MS-65.
71597 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1904-Zs Z. Zacatecas Mint. NGC MS-65.
71598 MEXICO. 10 Centavos, 1874-Go S. Guanajuato Mint. NGC AU-55.
71599 MEXICO. 10 Centavos, 1877-Go S. Guanajuato Mint. NGC AU-55.
71604 MEXICO. 10 Centavos, 1882-Pi H. San Luis Potosi Mint. NGC AU Details--Surface Hairlines. The finest known of this rare date.
71605 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1888-As L. Alamos Mint. NGC AU-55.
71607 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1877-Do P. Durango Mint. NGC AU-58.
71612 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1890-Oa N. Oaxaca Mint. NGC EF-40.
71613 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1863-SLP. San Luis Potosi Mint. NGC MS-61. Semi-PL surfaces.
71614 MEXICO. Quintet of Minors (5 Pieces), 1874-1900. All ANACS, NGC, or PCGS Certified.
71618 MEXICO. Centavo, 1887-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-64 Brown.
71622 MEXICO. Centavo, 1896-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-66 Brown. Ex. @bidask!
71623 MEXICO. Centavo, 1898-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-66 Brown.
71654 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1905-Mo M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-63. Ex. Novotny Collection Sale (Stacks March 2011 Lot 9027). Scarce!
71655 MEXICO. 20 Centavos, 1921-M. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-65. This coin came from Bavaria along with my mint state 1922 2c! It was brought there shortly after minting.
71659 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1914-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-64 Brown.
71660 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1915-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-65 Brown.
71662 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1916-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC Unc Details--Surface Hairlines.
71664 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1927-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-65 Brown.
71666 MEXICO. 5 Centavos, 1930-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-63 Red Brown.
71672 MEXICO. Centavo, 1924/3-Mo. Mexico City Mint. NGC MS-64 Red Brown. This coin came from Bavaria along with my mint state 1922 2c! It was brought there shortly after minting. Scarce.
71675 MEXICO. Quartet of Bronze Minors (4 Pieces), 1920-Mo. Mexico City Mint. All NGC Certified. I absolutely can't believe that S-B put all these together in one lot. This lot is easily worth $1000-2000!
71677 MEXICO. Quartet of Bronze Minors (4 Pieces), 1919-29. Mexico City Mint. All NGC or PCGS Certified. Some good coins in this group lot. The 1924 5c in this lot came from Bavaria along with my mint state 1922 2c! It was brought there shortly after minting.
71686 MEXICO. Duo of Mint Errors (2 Pieces), 1883 & ND (1980-84). Mexico City Mint. Both NGC Certified.
71716 MEXICO. Silver Constitution Proclamation Medal, 1843. NGC AU-58.
71719 MEXICO. Bronze Proclamation Medal, ND (ca. 1860). NGC AU-58.
71725 MEXICO. Septet of Bronze Denominations (7 Pieces), 1863-1959. Mexico City Mint. All ANACS or NGC Certified.

Comments

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas all of these, magnificent. Already bidding on many. This is an impressive lot of coins. Very impressive.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:
    @pruebas all of these, magnificent. Already bidding on many. This is an impressive lot of coins. Very impressive.

    Thanks @Abuelo. Maybe they will be ex. Abuelo Collection one day!

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it is possible some of these will be... but are too many. The 4 reales group is really outstanding. And the decimals, well, what can I say. Too bad one never have enough funds! Best of luck!

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 22,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good luck!

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • KingOfMorganDollarKingOfMorganDollar Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭✭

    Very nice selection of coins!!

  • KingOfMorganDollarKingOfMorganDollar Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2021 6:10PM

    There are a few I will try and add to my collection.

  • KingOfMorganDollarKingOfMorganDollar Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭✭

    How does one follow the live auction once it starts like Heritage never bid with them before?

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2021 6:22PM

    You need to hunt around on their homepage on auction day. October 13 at noon Eastern. Somewhere they will have a LIVE button and you just click it and the auction comes up. You need to register with Stacks ahead of time because, unlike Heritage, they have a credit limit.

  • KingOfMorganDollarKingOfMorganDollar Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2021 7:53PM

    @pruebas said:
    You need to hunt around on their homepage on auction day. October 13 at noon Eastern. Somewhere they will have a LIVE button and you just click it and the auction comes up. You need to register with Stacks ahead of time because, unlike Heritage, they have a credit limit.

    I am registered bid on a few already. I will call them Monday about the credit limit but I doubt so far there is any issue at all with that. I will make sure all is OK before bidding any further it should be.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 10,883 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2021 8:15PM

    @Abuelo said:
    I think it is possible some of these will be... but are too many. The 4 reales group is really outstanding. And the decimals, well, what can I say. Too bad one never have enough funds! Best of luck!

    @Abuelo and whomever else cares..... Stacks will allow you to take a few months to pay for a small fee. I think maybe 1% a month on the balance. It's not exorbitant and it's not publicized.

    It's certainly an option if short on funds. I've used it on occasion if I catch a bout of "irrational exuberance."

  • ELuisELuis Posts: 190 ✭✭✭

    If any of the items it is not sold, will end up avail on the Buy Direct on SBG?

  • ELuisELuis Posts: 190 ✭✭✭

    @ELuis said:
    If any of the items it is not sold, will end up avail on the Buy Direct on SBG?

    To answer to mysef, I can see they have a 'Buy Direct' section, but guess that these type of coins won't be there too often if ever happens. Was just curios.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 8, 2021 1:49PM

    @ELuis said:

    @ELuis said:
    If any of the items it is not sold, will end up avail on the Buy Direct on SBG?

    To answer to mysef, I can see they have a 'Buy Direct' section, but guess that these type of coins won't be there too often if ever happens. Was just curios.

    If anything doesn't sell, it goes back to my collection! :)

    Edited to add: They made the estimates and opening bids low enough that everything should sell IMHO.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One day left till the auction. Wednesday at noon Eastern, 9:00 AM Pacific.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This sale is today at http://www.StacksBowers.com/

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's over! What a grueling session!

    Thanks everyone for your bids. Enjoy whatever winnings you managed to buy.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2021 8:22PM

    @ELuis said:
    If any of the items it is not sold, will end up avail on the Buy Direct on SBG?

    @ELuis two of my coins failed to get any bids and hence didn’t sell. I’m happy to receive offers (and no auction commission!).

    71525 MEXICO. Real, 1827-Go JM. Guanajuato Mint. NGC G-6. S-B states this is the Novotny coin, but it is not. It is better than the Novotny coin! Ex. Gabriel Gomez, Mexico City. Opening bid was $180 (+20% buyers premium). Estimate $300-500.

    71526 MEXICO. Real, 1868-Ho PR. Hermosillo Mint. NGC VF-30. Ex. Novotny Collection (privately). Opening bid was $120 (+20% buyers premium). Estimate $200-300.

  • KingOfMorganDollarKingOfMorganDollar Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭✭

    Seems like nice prices!!

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Got the 25C 1887 Pi and the Go/CN 25 centavos. Not bad I guess...

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:
    Got the 25C 1887 Pi and the Go/CN 25 centavos. Not bad I guess...

    Both over-mintmark coins: the Pi being Pi/Zs.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 10,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Happy with the prices?

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The prices were ok. I didn’t expect much, so it’s kinda what I thought.

    People keep saying the prices were crazy, but that’s only if you believe the low estimates were close to reality. Of course, they weren’t. The estimates were pure fiction. Totally made up.

    I would caution everyone not to expect much from minors of any field of coins, even after a long holding period. Mexican numismatics is a popular field, but even in this market, I had trouble getting back my cost basis in these coins, especially after slabbing costs.

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