funny that this nickel is more famous for being in Hawaii Five-O than for being 1913 Lib 5c
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@WillieBoyd2 said:
In two years it will be the 50th anniversary of the broadcast of the 1973 Hawaii Five-O "The $100,000 Nickel" episode.
James MacArthur and Jack Lord
Between 1951 and 1953, there was an episode of Amos and Andy that dealt with Kingfish trying to steal a rare Shield Nickel owned by Andy. I put a link to the show deep into this thread.
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The Hawaii 5-0 connection adds greatly to the appeal of this specimen since it adds the Hollywood collectors to those interested in it. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
@BryceM said:
Nothing against the coin, but for super rarities, these nickels seem to show up at shows with surprising regularity.
Speaking from experience, that’s because shows are more than willing to foot the insurance and security costs to make them show up. Because people want to see them and it adds to the show.
I remember seeing all five 1913 Liberty nickels displayed together at one of the major coin shows in Baltimore many years ago. The fifth nickel was just discovered and a group of numismatic experts evaluated this nickel by comparing it to the other four known examples. It was confirmed to be genuine by comparing the edges of the coins. They all had the same pattern of striations on their edges imparted by the collar used in the striking of these coins.
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@PerryHall said:
I remember seeing all five 1913 Liberty nickels displayed together at one of the major coin shows in Baltimore many years ago. The fifth nickel was just discovered and a group of numismatic experts evaluated this nickel by comparing it to the other four known examples. It was confirmed to be genuine by comparing the edges of the coins. They all had the same pattern of striations on their edges imparted by the collar used in the striking of these coins.
Yes. Legend Numismatics had managed to get the ANA and Smithsonian to lend their coins for a display - along with the Hawaii 5-O specimen [which I owned at the time] and the Eliasberg specimen [which I own now.]
@WillieBoyd2 said:
In two years it will be the 50th anniversary of the broadcast of the 1973 Hawaii Five-O "The $100,000 Nickel" episode.
James MacArthur and Jack Lord
Between 1951 and 1953, there was an episode of Amos and Andy that dealt with Kingfish trying to steal a rare Shield Nickel owned by Andy. I put a link to the show deep into this thread.
One of my very early childhood memories is Amos and Andy .
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@PerryHall said:
I remember seeing all five 1913 Liberty nickels displayed together at one of the major coin shows in Baltimore many years ago. The fifth nickel was just discovered and a group of numismatic experts evaluated this nickel by comparing it to the other four known examples. It was confirmed to be genuine by comparing the edges of the coins. They all had the same pattern of striations on their edges imparted by the collar used in the striking of these coins.
Yes. Legend Numismatics had managed to get the ANA and Smithsonian to lend their coins for a display - along with the Hawaii 5-O specimen [which I owned at the time] and the Eliasberg specimen [which I own now.]
@tradedollarnut i had no idea you were such a big gun! I myself own an Eliasberg pedigree NGC au58 1936 d mercury. To think, my coin may have been in the same room as a 1913 Liberty nickel!
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@PerryHall said:
I remember seeing all five 1913 Liberty nickels displayed together at one of the major coin shows in Baltimore many years ago. The fifth nickel was just discovered and a group of numismatic experts evaluated this nickel by comparing it to the other four known examples. It was confirmed to be genuine by comparing the edges of the coins. They all had the same pattern of striations on their edges imparted by the collar used in the striking of these coins.
Baltimore, summer 2003
Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
This was the Hawaii Five-O Nickel as I photographed it when it was displayed at the Portland Money Show before tradedollarnut acquired it.
I had thought it got reholdered into a PCGS slab without reference to Hawaii Five-O. In any event it is clearly back in a NGC holder with an upgrade now to a 64+.
Speaking of tradedollarnut's prior ownership of the Hawaii Five-O coin, I have always thought his backstory as to its acquisition was really interesting:
@tradedollarnut said:
My adopted grandfather got me interested in coins. The 1913 was always his favorite. When I had the Hawaii 5-O coin, he drove over to Spokane from Seattle just to see it.
Such a cool backstory. Thanks for sharing.
To which I had added on a prior responsive post:
FWIW, I flew all the way from my home to get to see it at the Portland Money Show. Of course that was back when it still had the Hawaii 5-0 attribution on the holder.
Little did I realize then that seeing the coin would be a precursor to getting the opportunity to appear as a Background Actor on the rebooted Hawaii Five-0 TV Series.
The fifth nickel was lost for 50 years. It was lost in a car wreck by collector George Walton. The coin found in the wreckage was identified as a fake only to be proven genuine by comparison to the other 4
coins. The Walton specimen of the 1913 Liberty Head “V” Nickel was sold by Heritage Auctions in April 2013 for a then-record $3.17 million. It was sold in the custom holder that George Walton had fashioned for his prize coin.
This is Zoid's example of the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel.
It was discarded for not being up to the standards of the other five. I couldn't afford a perfect example and had to settle for this slightly imperfect strike.
@Connecticoin said:
I like the serial number on the slab . . . .
Yes, I caught that too. Also of note the same serial number was used as was on the original NGC slab before the coin was crossed over to a PCGS slab and then now back to a NGC slab with the upgrade to 64+ from 64. (If I recall correctly it was also a 64 in the interim PCGS slab.)
@Connecticoin said:
I like the serial number on the slab . . . .
Yes, I caught that too. Also of note the same serial number was used as was on the original NGC slab before the coin was crossed over to a PCGS slab and then now back to a NGC slab with the upgrade to 64+ from 64. (If I recall correctly it was also a 64 in the interim PCGS slab.)
For comparison, here is the Hawaii Five-O coin in the original NGC slab with the identical serial number it now has in the present NGC slab with its upgrade to a 64+ from a 64. Tradedollarnut can set the record straight if not correct, apparently after he acquired the coin he had it reholdered into a PCGS slab which also graded as a 64 and the PCGS slab no longer made reference to its Hawaii Five-O provenance.
@Connecticoin said:
I like the serial number on the slab . . . .
Yes, I caught that too. Also of note the same serial number was used as was on the original NGC slab before the coin was crossed over to a PCGS slab and then now back to a NGC slab with the upgrade to 64+ from 64. (If I recall correctly it was also a 64 in the interim PCGS slab.)
Is this some kind of bidding war between the two major grading services for the highest grade?
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@1northcoin said:
My guess is the recent switch has more to do with getting back the Hawaii Five-O attribution. But what do I know.
As a point of trivia, since this was holdered so long ago in its original NGC slab, is it possible that JA himself graded it when he was still with NGC? Would certainly be an ironic twist with it now having been beaned by JA.
I’m not 1000% sure, but I do believe that the coin was Pcgs 64 when on display at the Mandalay Bay coin museum and when I purchased it around 1999. It was after I sold it a few years later that it was crossed over to NGC. It was definitely Pcgs when the 4 nickels were on display in Baltimore
@tradedollarnut said:
I’m not 1000% sure, but I do believe that the coin was Pcgs 64 when on display at the Mandalay Bay coin museum and when I purchased it around 1999. It was after I sold it a few years later that it was crossed over to NGC. It was definitely Pcgs when the 4 nickels were on display in Baltimore
@PerryHall said:
I remember seeing all five 1913 Liberty nickels displayed together at one of the major coin shows in Baltimore many years ago. The fifth nickel was just discovered and a group of numismatic experts evaluated this nickel by comparing it to the other four known examples. It was confirmed to be genuine by comparing the edges of the coins. They all had the same pattern of striations on their edges imparted by the collar used in the striking of these coins.
Yes. Legend Numismatics had managed to get the ANA and Smithsonian to lend their coins for a display - along with the Hawaii 5-O specimen [which I owned at the time] and the Eliasberg specimen [which I own now.]
If you get the opportunity, it would be great to pick up the Walton specimen. Imagine being the only person in modern history to own all 3 available specimens?
@1northcoin said:
My guess is the recent switch has more to do with getting back the Hawaii Five-O attribution. But what do I know.
As a point of trivia, since this was holdered so long ago in its original NGC slab, is it possible that JA himself graded it when he was still with NGC? Would certainly be an ironic twist with it now having been beaned by JA.
Perhaps this timeline is instructive.
The Olsen Specimen of the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel sold for a then record sum of $100,000 in the year prior to the 1973 Hawaii Five-0 show in which it was prominently featured.
In 1986 John Albanese co-founded PCGS and remained with PCGS for a year.
In 1987 John Albanese started his own company, NGC. Unable to verity just how long he remained with NGC, but by 2007 had departed to found CAC.
So if the PCGS graded Olsen Specimen that TDN acquired in 1999 (then holdered as a 64 per TDN's recollection) it is possible that JA personally graded it if it was graded by PCGS in 1986.
Since JA was apparently with NGC for a period of time that included a few years after 1999 then he may have also personally graded it again after TDN's ownership of the coin.
The above posted photo I took of the Hawaii Five-0 Coin in a NGC holder, also graded as a 64, was taken at the 2009 ANA Money Show held in Portland, Oregon. It was on display there along with the McDermott/Bebee Specimen of the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel.
The coin is now in a NGC holder graded as a 64+ with a CAC sticker.
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I'll definitely check this baby out tomorrow. Looks like an amazing example.
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In two years it will be the 50th anniversary of the broadcast of the 1973 Hawaii Five-O "The $100,000 Nickel" episode.
James MacArthur and Jack Lord
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funny that this nickel is more famous for being in Hawaii Five-O than for being 1913 Lib 5c
Between 1951 and 1953, there was an episode of Amos and Andy that dealt with Kingfish trying to steal a rare Shield Nickel owned by Andy. I put a link to the show deep into this thread.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
One of those super rarities... Few will own.... many admire from afar. Cheers, RickO
The stuff that dreams are made of…
The Hawaii 5-0 connection adds greatly to the appeal of this specimen since it adds the Hollywood collectors to those interested in it. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
Nothing against the coin, but for super rarities, these nickels seem to show up at shows with surprising regularity.
Speaking from experience, that’s because shows are more than willing to foot the insurance and security costs to make them show up. Because people want to see them and it adds to the show.
I remember seeing all five 1913 Liberty nickels displayed together at one of the major coin shows in Baltimore many years ago. The fifth nickel was just discovered and a group of numismatic experts evaluated this nickel by comparing it to the other four known examples. It was confirmed to be genuine by comparing the edges of the coins. They all had the same pattern of striations on their edges imparted by the collar used in the striking of these coins.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
Yes. Legend Numismatics had managed to get the ANA and Smithsonian to lend their coins for a display - along with the Hawaii 5-O specimen [which I owned at the time] and the Eliasberg specimen [which I own now.]
A super cool coin!
One of my very early childhood memories is Amos and Andy
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@tradedollarnut i had no idea you were such a big gun! I myself own an Eliasberg pedigree NGC au58 1936 d mercury. To think, my coin may have been in the same room as a 1913 Liberty nickel!
Baltimore, summer 2003
This was the Hawaii Five-O Nickel as I photographed it when it was displayed at the Portland Money Show before tradedollarnut acquired it.
I had thought it got reholdered into a PCGS slab without reference to Hawaii Five-O. In any event it is clearly back in a NGC holder with an upgrade now to a 64+.
Speaking of tradedollarnut's prior ownership of the Hawaii Five-O coin, I have always thought his backstory as to its acquisition was really interesting:
@tradedollarnut said:
My adopted grandfather got me interested in coins. The 1913 was always his favorite. When I had the Hawaii 5-O coin, he drove over to Spokane from Seattle just to see it.
Such a cool backstory. Thanks for sharing.
To which I had added on a prior responsive post:
FWIW, I flew all the way from my home to get to see it at the Portland Money Show. Of course that was back when it still had the Hawaii 5-0 attribution on the holder.
Little did I realize then that seeing the coin would be a precursor to getting the opportunity to appear as a Background Actor on the rebooted Hawaii Five-0 TV Series.
The fifth nickel was lost for 50 years. It was lost in a car wreck by collector George Walton. The coin found in the wreckage was identified as a fake only to be proven genuine by comparison to the other 4
coins. The Walton specimen of the 1913 Liberty Head “V” Nickel was sold by Heritage Auctions in April 2013 for a then-record $3.17 million. It was sold in the custom holder that George Walton had fashioned for his prize coin.
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Dahlonega Type Set-2008 PCGS Best Exhibited Set
This is Zoid's example of the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel.
It was discarded for not being up to the standards of the other five. I couldn't afford a perfect example and had to settle for this slightly imperfect strike.
Z
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From the Long Beach show
Maybe it's just the pics in this thread... Yet wondering if this was mildly cleaned by Farouk?
I like the serial number on the slab . . . .
Possibly - all 5 were probably as pristine at the Eliasberg coin shorty after they were minted
Yes, I caught that too. Also of note the same serial number was used as was on the original NGC slab before the coin was crossed over to a PCGS slab and then now back to a NGC slab with the upgrade to 64+ from 64. (If I recall correctly it was also a 64 in the interim PCGS slab.)
For comparison, here is the Hawaii Five-O coin in the original NGC slab with the identical serial number it now has in the present NGC slab with its upgrade to a 64+ from a 64. Tradedollarnut can set the record straight if not correct, apparently after he acquired the coin he had it reholdered into a PCGS slab which also graded as a 64 and the PCGS slab no longer made reference to its Hawaii Five-O provenance.
Is this some kind of bidding war between the two major grading services for the highest grade?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
My guess is the recent switch has more to do with getting back the Hawaii Five-O attribution. But what do I know.
As a point of trivia, since this was holdered so long ago in its original NGC slab, is it possible that JA himself graded it when he was still with NGC? Would certainly be an ironic twist with it now having been beaned by JA.
I’m not 1000% sure, but I do believe that the coin was Pcgs 64 when on display at the Mandalay Bay coin museum and when I purchased it around 1999. It was after I sold it a few years later that it was crossed over to NGC. It was definitely Pcgs when the 4 nickels were on display in Baltimore
Thanks
The PCGS cert for the Olsen coin is still valid. https://pcgs.com/cert/04000000
As for Farouk cleaning it, I do not think he ever took possession of it.
Given that Farouk is identified in the pedigree, did he have ownership without possession somehow?
Reminds of that old adage about "Possession is 9/10ths of the law."
Pretty sure the answer is yes. Have to go find the details
Thanks for the response. Looking forward to the details, if and when they are found.
If you get the opportunity, it would be great to pick up the Walton specimen. Imagine being the only person in modern history to own all 3 available specimens?
Ugh, that card needs to say:
Perhaps this timeline is instructive.
The Olsen Specimen of the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel sold for a then record sum of $100,000 in the year prior to the 1973 Hawaii Five-0 show in which it was prominently featured.
In 1986 John Albanese co-founded PCGS and remained with PCGS for a year.
In 1987 John Albanese started his own company, NGC. Unable to verity just how long he remained with NGC, but by 2007 had departed to found CAC.
So if the PCGS graded Olsen Specimen that TDN acquired in 1999 (then holdered as a 64 per TDN's recollection) it is possible that JA personally graded it if it was graded by PCGS in 1986.
Since JA was apparently with NGC for a period of time that included a few years after 1999 then he may have also personally graded it again after TDN's ownership of the coin.
The above posted photo I took of the Hawaii Five-0 Coin in a NGC holder, also graded as a 64, was taken at the 2009 ANA Money Show held in Portland, Oregon. It was on display there along with the McDermott/Bebee Specimen of the 1913 Liberty Head Nickel.
The coin is now in a NGC holder graded as a 64+ with a CAC sticker.