Has the obverse of this 20c been re-engraved?

braddick

I've been watching this one- primarily because it is listed as a quarter when it is truly the scarcer 20c. Few people are probably watching it because of this mistake in the listing.
Upon scrutiny, though, I believe the obverse may have been worked on. Re-engraved as the shield shows no signs of the LIBERTY on the shield, yet the skirt detail (and to a lesser extent, the hand detail) is decent- if not looking a bit 'off'.
Your thoughts?
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koynekwest

I absolutely agree!

koynekwest

I had a 1799 large cent that was similarly re-engraved.

CaptHenway

Hard to tell from that crappy picture, but I am inclined to say no. The raised LIBERTY can be gone on a VG.

LanceNewmanOCC

LanceNewmanOCC

ok, here is a comp image to see where the engraving may be (is).

LanceNewmanOCC

HA. just kiddin. i just needed ANY excuse to post that obscenely amazing 75-s

here is the comp(s).

koynekwest

Well, that shows ya how much I know about 20c pieces! In my 60 years of collecting I've only ever had one.

BillJones

Yes. It’s been “tooled” to the left and around the shield and to the right of shield. The engraved part is too sharp, given the amount of wear.

NickelMike

Not sure how anyone can tell much from those pictures.

ricko

The date is remarkably distinct compared to the rest of the obverse wear.... When it 'jumps out' like that, it makes me think work has been done... Cheers, RickO

oih82w8

This is just another reason that if you are in doubt...don't. I would not purchase it unless it was for melt value.

lkenefic

LIBERTY is raised on this issue and is usually worn off by VF... design flaw, but the detail in the skirt lines isn't consistent with the amount of wear... I agree with Bill Jones... likely tooled.

Keshequa

Tooled. Fingers and folds under arm are not correct. Cleaned. Rim ding. Ugly.