1965 Kennedy - Is this SMS or business strike? Worth slabbing?
Mr_Spud
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I’m planning on submitting a few coins at the Long Beach Show. I’m narrowed down to just a few coins and this is one of them. Do you think this is a SMS or a business strike? Do you think this is worth getting slabbed?
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Just look at the cheek, jawline and neck. I wouldn't pay to get that certified.
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It's pretty beat up so I don't think it merits a slab.
Thanks, that narrows it down even further as to what I plan on submitting. The scuffs are there on the cheek and neck, but not deep, more like luster breaks. I don’t remember where this coin came from, but I was thinking I might have something good if it is a business strike and if PCGS didn’t mark it down too much for the light scuffs. I can’t see any other hits or defects anywhere else on the coin.
Mr_Spud
Problem is those scuffs are in a prime focal point.
If you want, have it graded.
A really nice looking coin.
I personally would not but so many of us have been wrong interpreting pictures.
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Why would you even consider slabbing that? It is melting pot material with those marks on JFK's face.
I was considering slabbing it as a long shot chance that it is a circulation strike that might get a high grade because the scuffs on the face are the only marks on the coin. I have 8 grading vouchers to use up but only about 5 coins worth slabbing so I went through some old boxes of raw coins looking for some coins that might be worthwhile to try as long shots.
Mr_Spud
If you were looking to buy a high grade coin, would you choose one with similar marks on it?
I wouldn't waste my time with that coin.
Hard pass.
It’s an SMS anyway.
Thanks, the other SMS’s I have all have mirrors like a proof, but this one doesn’t remotely resemble a proof.
Mr_Spud
Well it’s either that or its PL like, going by the reflective surfaces on the obverse, nose and forehead.
The overall look as well strikes me as an SMS.
Other than the slabbing question.
From past information I have read on this, I’m not even sure there is a definitive way to tell if a coin 1965 through 1967 coin, is a business strike or SMS.
What characteristics determine whether a coin is a business strike or SMS?
Of course, the 1965, if still in the flat pack is a sure way. But how about the 1966 and 1967 coins that can be swapped out of the special mint sets?
I was wondering the same thing. Ignoring the scuffmarks on the cheek and neck for a moment, I really can’t tell if this is a business strike or a SMS.
Mr_Spud
I am certainly no expert but my opinion is that if it too nice it is called an SMS; between the overworked dies and the poor mint quality the business strikes were never very good for much of the 60's and early 70's.
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I have seen mistakes in the Special mint coins even in the 2005d cent. Here is the CoinFacts pic which even though it's listed in business strike it is clearly a satin finish SMS. I heard tell this is in Hansen's collection but cannot confirm.