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I have what's probably a dumb question, but I'm curious what you would do.

MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

I have an 1823/2 Dime. All 1823 Dimes were struck from the same obverse die, i.e. they are all 1823/2.
Would you store this coin in your type set box, or in your box where you keep varieties?
Myself, I'm going to keep it in my box of varieties. I think anyone looking thru the box would find it interesting to see a coin with a 3 over 2 along with my other overdates, RPM's, OMM's, Doubled Dies, etc.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    And if a coin falls in a forest, does it ring?

    Technically, everything is a variety energy if it is the only variety of that year. But, to your point, there's not a lot of point in calling it out as one.

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    Arguably not, but "for me", it's more interesting in a Variety box. I'm just asking out of curiosity what others would do.

    There's no right or wrong way. Everyone has their preference and opinion. There!! I said it. Now no one else has to and I can hopefully get an answer to what each of you would do.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would fit in either, but probably more at home in a box of varieties

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  • LazybonesLazybones Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 22, 2021 5:09AM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    And if a coin falls in a forest, does it ring?

    Technically, everything is a variety energy if it is the only variety of that year. But, to your point, there's not a lot of point in calling it out as one.

    And if a frog had wings, would it bump its ass so much?

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  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 22, 2021 5:36AM

    So does your 1825 dime belong in your variety box? It also is the only "variety" for the year. How about the 1827?

    These are date coins, not varieties. IMO.

    By the by, I feel the same way about my 1815 half. Although all 1815's are overdates (1815/2) they, to me, are simply year dates.

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 22, 2021 5:56AM

    I sort my slabbed coins (slab store boxes) by TPG / country / denom / date / mint mark so I can quickly find them when they sell from online store or for boxes taken to show quickly put in order in display case.

    For your question I see that as a type coin.

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    It someone was putting together a collection of overdates, would they include this coin?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not have a variety box. I just store my coins in cabinets or a safe (and some in a large cardboard storage box, for mint sets and albums). Depending on the coin and the variety, it might get a special drawer in one of the cabinets, though none have yet acquired that lofty privilege ;) . Cheers, RickO

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends on if you already have an example of the type. And you could always move it.

    @MWallace said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    And if a coin falls in a forest, does it ring?

    If a man speaks in the forest, and there's not a woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?

    If it's genuine and hits a rock, yes.

    And same answer as the tree question-of course.

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    It would fit in either, but probably more at home in a box of varieties

    If it is in a variety box, and you take it to a variety show, will there be singing and dancing and skits?

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote Variety Box.
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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    It would fit in either, but probably more at home in a box of varieties

    If it is in a variety box, and you take it to a variety show, will there be singing and dancing and skits?

    On the other hand, when I show my coins it's probably more 75% of the time to a non-collector. Would they be more excited seeing a 3/2 along with other varieties or a worn, G4 with my type?

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Swampboy said:
    👍
    It's a lucky collector who has someone to show his coins to

    More times than not it's usually family members and I think they're getting tired of seeing them. LOL

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:

    @Swampboy said:
    👍
    It's a lucky collector who has someone to show his coins to

    More times than not it's usually family members and I think they're getting tired of seeing them. LOL

    Even worse, it's a wife who may be actively opposed to their very existence...

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @MWallace said:

    @Swampboy said:
    👍
    It's a lucky collector who has someone to show his coins to

    More times than not it's usually family members and I think they're getting tired of seeing them. LOL

    Even worse, it's a wife who may be actively opposed to their very existence...

    I get it 1000%.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy another one and keep one in both :)

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Buy another one and keep one in both :)

    There's the best idea I've heard yet. Problem solved.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If they are all that way, why would the TPGS label them as anything but a 23?

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That would look good in the variety box!

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It sounds like your type box has higher grades?
    In that case, I would include this coin in the variety box. If the type box was all well circulated examples, then I would put the coin in the type box (as long as you didn’t already have another bust Dime in the type box).

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you can't make up your mind, I suggest that you put it in one box and then after 6 months move it to the other box and then after 6 months move it back to the first box and then after another 6 months.......

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As long as these aren't your variety boxes.....................

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    Arguably not, but "for me", it's more interesting in a Variety box. I'm just asking out of curiosity what others would do.

    I would be inclined to keep two of them with the better in my date set.

    It's odd that the '23 is much higher mintage than the '22 and it's the overdate!

    I do own multiples of several coins or tokens so they can be displayed in multiple collections. For instance I collect both telephone tokens and world's fair tokens so the nicer 1933 world's fair telephone token goes in my telephone token collection and a filler goes in the world's fair collection. The specific token in question is more directly related to making a phone call than it is to the fair hence the choice of collections for the nicer token.

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  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t have an over date, so it would serve as an example of that for me.
    If I got an over date that was a variety for that year/coin, it would replace it in the box.
    Put it where it belongs in the way you think about it. If it goes w/varieties because it’s an over date example, you nailed it. If it’s just a type coin because it looks like all others of that date, you got it either there, too.

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    If you can't make up your mind, I suggest that you put it in one box and then after 6 months move it to the other box and then after 6 months move it back to the first box and then after another 6 months.......

    Or buy another one and put one in each box. :)

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would place it in the variety box as well.

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    If you can't make up your mind, I suggest that you put it in one box and then after 6 months move it to the other box and then after 6 months move it back to the first box and then after another 6 months.......

    A good suggestion maybe for others (I know you're half joking), but as I stated in the OP I put it in the varieties box. I'm just wondering what others would do with it in THEIR collection. I like that there is about an even mix of opinions being posted.

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 22, 2021 3:40PM

    @MWallace said:

    @PerryHall said:
    If you can't make up your mind, I suggest that you put it in one box and then after 6 months move it to the other box and then after 6 months move it back to the first box and then after another 6 months.......

    A good suggestion maybe for others (I know you're half joking), but as I stated in the OP I put it in the varieties box. I'm just wondering what others would do with it in THEIR collection. I like that there is about an even mix of opinions being posted.

    Put all the coins into one big damn donut, I mean box?

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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:
    I have an 1823/2 Dime. All 1823 Dimes were struck from the same obverse die, i.e. they are all 1823/2.
    Would you store this coin in your type set box, or in your box where you keep varieties?
    Myself, I'm going to keep it in my box of varieties. I think anyone looking thru the box would find it interesting to see a coin with a 3 over 2 along with my other overdates, RPM's, OMM's, Doubled Dies, etc.

    But not the same reverse die. So being there are varieties, I would put it in the variety box. But in all reality I would break it out of the slab and put it in my bust dime album. The two varieties that I know of off hand are; the small "E" and large "E" reverses.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    And if a coin falls in a forest, does it ring?

    It depends on what it hits. It could make a thud or other sound.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    And if a coin falls in a forest, does it ring?

    If a man speaks in the forest, and there's not a woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?

    Yes

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would throw it in the normal date run box personally.

  • BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭

    Highly presumptuous to assume we are that organized :D

    If I were adding it to my scans, the only part of my collection that is organized, it would go in the regular listing in chronological order. Of course, so would the variety if I ever got any of them, just with it labeled as such.

    The only thing I separate, mostly for easy access without having to scroll past other stuff, is my small collection of errors. That's under 10 coins total.

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  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    As long as these aren't your variety boxes.....................

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @MWallace said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    If all of them were 3 over 2. Then would it be a variety?

    And if a coin falls in a forest, does it ring?

    If a man speaks in the forest, and there's not a woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?

    Yes

    Every woman I've ever asked that question to give the same answer. Most men ponder on it for a while. LOL

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