Host coin checks out and I want to say yes but when I see the extensive re-engraving near by I know that the tools needed to do that as non-punch wise were in close proximity and the question kills it for me. Engraving has similar tone too. I bet it is an unfinished decoration
I wouldn’t put my money up as a type
as so, but for melt I would put it in my cabinet tray.
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I did not pick it up because of the possible chop (although I have quite a few chopped seated halves) I'm more interested in carved pieces. This one appeals to me greatly and I had to pay more than melt for it.
Intention is to add seated half and dollar potty coins to my cabinet.
Seated half potties are somewhat common, compared to dollars, and this one will, cuz of the nice long legs 😉 will fit in nicely to that set...
FWIW, I'm leaning towards chop mark. Look at the corresponding area on the reverse (circled in red). It appears slightly raised and more worn than the surrounding areas. The edge of the eagle's wing has been completely worn off.
@Weiss said:
Chop. The reason it became a project was because host was chopped and was interesting enough and/or damaged enough to warrant embellishment.
Maybe, possible theory. The age of the tooling is interesting as well
But if it is both, that has me thinking when where and why...
Is it possible that a carved coin could have been dropped back into circulation before finding its way to the orient?
If chopped and then returned to circulation, at what time would chopped halves been likely to have made it back to the US?
What is considered to be the era in which seated (and trade) coins were carved into potty dollars and such?
Could it have been chopped and then carved in China way back when?
@mbogoman said:
FWIW, I'm leaning towards chop mark. Look at the corresponding area on the reverse (circled in red). It appears slightly raised and more worn than the surrounding areas. The edge of the eagle's wing has been completely worn off.
Forgot to check this before, but it lines up.
Back of "chop" is raised and worn typically.
In hand it seems to be a Chinese character with one side not fully struck..
Plus, we've got the correct mint for almost all the chopped slh's I've ever seen 🙂
What chop character(s) do you think it may be that if struck on an angle would be so apparently deeply impressed on one side and essentially missing on the other?
@TomB said:
What chop character(s) do you think it may be that if struck on an angle would be so apparently deeply impressed on one side and essentially missing on the other?
Not sure about the character based on what is visible (assuming that it is a chop), but many genuine chops have that angled strike that makes the character difficult to read.
I think something closer to this (forgive the terrible drawing skills), something akin to a '大' (da - big) without the top dash, and with an added triangle.
No doubt about the tooling.... That is interesting. It could be a chop, certainly it was struck with sufficient force to distort the reverse. Cheers, RickO
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Yes. At least I think it is... interesting coin.
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It looks it to me
My guess is yes.
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Host coin checks out and I want to say yes but when I see the extensive re-engraving near by I know that the tools needed to do that as non-punch wise were in close proximity and the question kills it for me. Engraving has similar tone too. I bet it is an unfinished decoration
I wouldn’t put my money up as a type
as so, but for melt I would put it in my cabinet tray.
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Definitely not
Isn't it simply carved? The whole bust has been carved.
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Why yes they do!
the problem I have with it is the mark is disjoint/random. It doesn't appear to be a symbol/letter. it appears to be just regular damage to me.
maybe a partial chop, but I'd pass on it myself.
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I did not pick it up because of the possible chop (although I have quite a few chopped seated halves) I'm more interested in carved pieces. This one appeals to me greatly and I had to pay more than melt for it.
Intention is to add seated half and dollar potty coins to my cabinet.
Seated half potties are somewhat common, compared to dollars, and this one will, cuz of the nice long legs 😉 will fit in nicely to that set...
FWIW, I'm leaning towards chop mark. Look at the corresponding area on the reverse (circled in red). It appears slightly raised and more worn than the surrounding areas. The edge of the eagle's wing has been completely worn off.

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Chop. The reason it became a project was because host was chopped and was interesting enough and/or damaged enough to warrant embellishment.
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Maybe, possible theory. The age of the tooling is interesting as well
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I have to confess, I was really hoping it might be both...carved and chopped.
Since its undoubtedly carved, its already a win!
But if it is both, that has me thinking when where and why...
Is it possible that a carved coin could have been dropped back into circulation before finding its way to the orient?
If chopped and then returned to circulation, at what time would chopped halves been likely to have made it back to the US?
What is considered to be the era in which seated (and trade) coins were carved into potty dollars and such?
Could it have been chopped and then carved in China way back when?
Fun to think about.
I really like it as a carved piece.
As a chopped piece, also nice
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Forgot to check this before, but it lines up.
Back of "chop" is raised and worn typically.
In hand it seems to be a Chinese character with one side not fully struck..
Plus, we've got the correct mint for almost all the chopped slh's I've ever seen 🙂
Looks like it might be a partial chop, the date/MM make sense for it to be as well.
What chop character(s) do you think it may be that if struck on an angle would be so apparently deeply impressed on one side and essentially missing on the other?
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Not sure about the character based on what is visible (assuming that it is a chop), but many genuine chops have that angled strike that makes the character difficult to read.
Something like this possibly?
Not the same chop obviously, but interestingly similar none the less..
Also, I believe I was able to locate the hammer that struck it as well...😄
I think something closer to this (forgive the terrible drawing skills), something akin to a '大' (da - big) without the top dash, and with an added triangle.
I think I posted that chop (da-big) up above, with an added triangle.
No doubt about the tooling.... That is interesting. It could be a chop, certainly it was struck with sufficient force to distort the reverse. Cheers, RickO
On a separate but related note, is that a chop on the rev? To the left of H and below the leaf? Peace Roy
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