Who's nose is this?

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JBK

Washington?

moursund

?
Edit: Damn! Sniped by JBK...

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LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

IkesT

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

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@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

Nice, I like.

That is beyond my knowledge.

JBK

Early 1990s or before.

Kliao

Really neat struck on fragment. Must be tiny!

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

1970's is what I'll guess.

Mr_Spud

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

It was struck between 1965 and whatever year they started state quarters and also not 1976

IkesT

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

Nice, I like.

That is beyond my knowledge.

I'll reveal the answer later if nobody gets it, exactly. The hint I'll give is that you can nail it down to a very narrow range based on the visible design details...

NumisOxide

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

Nice, I like.

That is beyond my knowledge.

I'll reveal the answer later if nobody gets it, exactly. The hint I'll give is that you can nail it down to a very narrow range based on the visible design details...

Early 1980s?

That's neat!!

braddick

1989

cladking

Well, my gut reaction was wrong so I don't have a lot of confidence; '71 Philly.

Jzyskowski1

@Mr_Spud said:

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

It was struck between 1965 and whatever year they started state quarters and also not 1976

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@Kliao said:
Really neat struck on fragment. Must be tiny!

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

It is ...

Kliao

Wow. Looks to be in a California gold type of core. I would think its a piece of random scrap metal if I don't pay close attention. Really neat!

braddick

Dang, I am way off on my grading skills.
I'd have thought that was an MS64.

Smudge

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@Kliao said:
Really neat struck on fragment. Must be tiny!

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

It is ...

How did they determine 65 or any numerical grade on that one?

scubafuel

It’d be cool to also have the coin it was struck into.

JBK

@Mr_Spud said:

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

It was struck between 1965 and whatever year they started state quarters and also not 1976

I would have to respectfully disagree. In early to mid 1990s they lowered the relief and made the details more garish - what I call spaghetti hair.

This coin seems to me to be earlier than that.

Steven59

Well I know it's not my neighbors nose - Last time he stuck his nose into my business I smacked it with a shovel then built a fence - LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Cool looking error!

mannie gray

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

No later than 1974.

1630Boston

1972/1973

IkesT

Thanks, everyone for your guesses! You actually got pretty close, especially @mannie gray and @1630Boston . Thanks @ErrorsOnCoins for posting this neat error!

In 1973, a new reverse master die (RDV-009) was created for the Washington quarter. Certain devices were heavily sharpened compared to the business strike reverse design that preceded it in 1972 (RDV-006), especially the leaves of the wreath (mostly not visible on the error coin).

Another distinctive change to RDV-009 is that the lower margins of the wing feathers were re-engraved, apparently by hand (and somewhat sloppily, I might add). These details are a bit faint on the error - not surprising that they did not strike up fully, given that it is so undersized - yet they still clearly match the RDV-009.

RDV-009 was only used for two years, 1973-1974, so that period is when the fragment must have been struck. After the 1976 bicentennial quarters (RDV-010) were minted, a new eagle reverse (RDV-011) was introduced in 1977.

Below, the fragment is aligned with the reverse of a 1973-D quarter to illustrate the matching engraving lines:

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Wow just wow!

Thank you IkesT for that very detailed information.

This forum is so educational

Mr_Spud

Cool, thanks!

scubafuel

POTD IkesT. Well done!

moursund

@braddick said:
Dang, I am way off on my grading skills.
I'd have thought that was an MS64.

Very clean cheek

moursund

@IkesT said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
LOL, kinda easy I guess .....

Let's increase the challenge: during what year (or years) was this coin struck?

If you could figure that out from just the obverse, you would have to be Nostrildamus.

CaptHenway

Not 1975.

Namvet69

I am impressed. Peace Roy

ricko

@IkesT ... Good detective work and thanks for the pictures/overlay.... Cheers, RickO

vulcanize

@Kliao said:
Wow. Looks to be in a California gold type of core. I would think its a piece of random scrap metal if I don't pay close attention. Really neat!

Speaks volumes about the mint's quality control if this piece escaped and went into circulation

Treashunt

great pick up

gumby1234

@IkesT I'm impressed. One question thou. I noticed the top leaf is much different in the overlay. Is there a reason for that?

WAYNEAS

Great job with the overlay.
A very interesting and challenging post.
Wayne

johnny9434

thats different but nice

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IkeT, can you date Ikes by a partial reverse?

IkesT

@gumby1234 said:
@IkesT I'm impressed. One question thou. I noticed the top leaf is much different in the overlay. Is there a reason for that?

The top right leaf looks like it may be weakly struck on the error, if that's what you mean.

IkesT

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
IkeT, can you date Ikes by a partial reverse?

It depends. If they have a Type 1, Type 2, or Friendly Eagle reverse, that narrows it down to 1-2 years, depending on which reverse it is and whether the coin is proof vs. business strike and 40% silver vs. copper-nickel clad. Type 3 reverse Ikes with no date usually can't be narrowed down as much, because that reverse was used on 1973-1974, 1977-1978, and some 1972 coins (although the 1972 coins can be ID'ed without a date if enough of the obverse design is showing).

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IkesT

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

That's a Type 3 reverse - you can tell because of the high relief detail on the eagle (e.g., the tail feathers), and it has crater details that the Type 2 reverse lacks. I have already seen a photo of the obverse of this coin - it has high relief hair detail that rules out a 1972 business strike, which limits it to 1973-1974 or 1977-1978.

I think you and I discussed this coin before, yes? I remember discussing it with someone. It was struck on a Taiwan $1 planchet, and the U.S. only minted those in 1973-1974.

I'm not aware of any master die markers that would reliably separate a 1973 and a 1974 Ike - I think the only way you could do it is if you lucked out and found a marker (die scratch, etc.) from the working die that could be matched to a dated coin.

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Thank you. I know this coin was narrowed down to 1973-1974. You seem very knowledgeable and thought you mint know the specific date.

Thanks again.

IkesT

Here is another little challenge in the same vein:

Below are four Lincoln cent errors with no date. What year were they struck?

https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/no-date-1c-memorial-reverse-lincoln-cent-struck-with-broken-and-misaligned-obverse-die-ngc-from-the-don-b/a/60203-91021.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515#


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https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/no-date-1c-memorial-reverse-lincoln-cent-obverse-cud-die-break-ms64-red-pcgs-from-the-don-bonser-error-coin-col/a/60192-92093.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515#

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https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/no-date-1c-memorial-reverse-lincoln-cent-obverse-counterbrockage-ms65-red-ngc-from-the-don-bonser/a/60192-92094.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515#


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https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/no-date-1c-memorial-reverse-lincoln-cent-obverse-struck-thru-capped-die-ms65-red-and-brown-ngc/a/60179-92036.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515#

ms70

Hat's off to IkesT! He gets the key to the forum for today!

gumby1234

Too much for my brain

IkesT

These particular error cents are actually easy to date if you know what the pickup point is. If not, the challenge is figuring out what to look for. One of the four error cents provides more of a hint than the others about where to look. Less is more, in this case...

Jimnight

That's a nice one.

nwcoast

I guess I’m a little late with my guess of Jimmy Durante?
;-)

In all seriousness- very cool error and education!
Thanks

cladking

@IkesT said:
Thanks, everyone for your guesses! You actually got pretty close, especially @mannie gray and @1630Boston . Thanks @ErrorsOnCoins for posting this neat error!

In 1973, a new reverse master die (RDV-009) was created for the Washington quarter. Certain devices were heavily sharpened compared to the business strike reverse design that preceded it in 1972 (RDV-006), especially the leaves of the wreath (mostly not visible on the error coin).

Another distinctive change to RDV-009 is that the lower margins of the wing feathers were re-engraved, apparently by hand (and somewhat sloppily, I might add). These details are a bit faint on the error - not surprising that they did not strike up fully, given that it is so undersized - yet they still clearly match the RDV-009.

RDV-009 was only used for two years, 1973-1974, so that period is when the fragment must have been struck. After the 1976 bicentennial quarters (RDV-010) were minted, a new eagle reverse (RDV-011) was introduced in 1977.

Below, the fragment is aligned with the reverse of a 1973-D quarter to illustrate the matching engraving lines:

Missing this is a little embarrassing but I was focusing on the minutia instead of the dead giveaways.

I'd venture an opinion on the date and mint but my credibility is shot.

Thanks for the post.

Testoon

1973 for the Lincolns - the huge FG on the reverse is the pickup point.